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Post by graf on Jun 16, 2013 10:25:34 GMT -7
Nice video but I was referring to old style stick torches like cave dwellers used. Also bark with pine picth that had ran into the bark so I have longer pieces that I can stack into the sapling I have better luck with a larger flame with the bark/pitch combo. Just my 2 cents. I also keep a eye out for just pine pitch and store it, I have filled metal containes with screw on lids with pine pitch soaked jute twine for wick, I can light it and set it under a tinder bundle until i get a good flame going then remove it and blow out the pitch container and pack it away.
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Post by offtrail on Jun 16, 2013 11:02:56 GMT -7
Nice video but I was referring to old style stick torches like cave dwellers used. Also bark with pine picth that had ran into the bark so I have longer pieces that I can stack into the sapling I have better luck with a larger flame with the bark/pitch combo. Just my 2 cents. I also keep a eye out for just pine pitch and store it, I have filled metal containes with screw on lids with pine pitch soaked jute twine for wick, I can light it and set it under a tinder bundle until i get a good flame going then remove it and blow out the pitch container and pack it away. Lets not forget the good old cattail torch just add some fat or pine pitch and your ready to go. I know some people would never do this but duct tape makes a very good torch that burns a long time and is pretty much wind proof. You and me both, I have so much pine pitch that i try to give it away. We have very few birch trees around here but we have plenty of pine trees.
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Post by graf on Jun 16, 2013 16:05:25 GMT -7
Are you referring to Birch trees for Chaga? I would like to get my hands on some of that. We have Birch trees but not correct kind.
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Post by offtrail on Jun 16, 2013 16:48:10 GMT -7
Are you referring to Birch trees for Chaga? I would like to get my hands on some of that. We have Birch trees but not correct kind. Yes birch and the bark makes good torch material. chaga grows on birch trees but I swear it also grows on pine trees or it's a great substitute for chaga.
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Post by graf on Jun 17, 2013 3:39:48 GMT -7
I was told that yellow Birch was main tree for Chaga I have white Birch. However white Birch still provides excellent electrolyte sap/water particularity in the spring. I was told in the upper peninsula here in Michigan yellow Birch is available, just haven't made the trip there in a few years to check it out.
What partiucler pine have you seen Chaga on? I have several pines in my area. Seems like pines are the tree that keeps on giving.
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Post by cajunlady87 on Jun 17, 2013 5:51:38 GMT -7
Nice video but I was referring to old style stick torches like cave dwellers used. Also bark with pine picth that had ran into the bark so I have longer pieces that I can stack into the sapling I have better luck with a larger flame with the bark/pitch combo. Just my 2 cents. I also keep a eye out for just pine pitch and store it, I have filled metal containes with screw on lids with pine pitch soaked jute twine for wick, I can light it and set it under a tinder bundle until i get a good flame going then remove it and blow out the pitch container and pack it away. Lets not forget the good old cattail torch just add some fat or pine pitch and your ready to go. I know some people would never do this but duct tape makes a very good torch that burns a long time and is pretty much wind proof. You and me both, I have so much pine pitch that i try to give it away. We have very few birch trees around here but we have plenty of pine trees. When I was younger I used cattails dipped in gasoline as torches. Today I realize the danger of doing so and am more familiar with other flammables to use. As a thought maybe it would be worth considering offering pine pitch and fat wood as a trade item to others here who aren't so lucky getting their hands on it and you may be interested in items in their area.
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Post by offtrail on Jun 17, 2013 7:16:14 GMT -7
Lets not forget the good old cattail torch just add some fat or pine pitch and your ready to go. I know some people would never do this but duct tape makes a very good torch that burns a long time and is pretty much wind proof. You and me both, I have so much pine pitch that i try to give it away. We have very few birch trees around here but we have plenty of pine trees. When I was younger I used cattails dipped in gasoline as torches. Today I realize the danger of doing so and am more familiar with other flammables to use. As a thought maybe it would be worth considering offering pine pitch and fat wood as a trade item to others here who aren't so lucky getting their hands on it and you may be interested in items in their area. I would be more then willing to trade some pinepitch or fatwood for some true birch bark.
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Post by offtrail on Jun 17, 2013 7:27:47 GMT -7
I was told that yellow Birch was main tree for Chaga I have white Birch. However white Birch still provides excellent electrolyte sap/water particularity in the spring. I was told in the upper peninsula here in Michigan yellow Birch is available, just haven't made the trip there in a few years to check it out. What partiucler pine have you seen Chaga on? I have several pines in my area. Seems like pines are the tree that keeps on giving. I will check next time i'm up there pike fishing. I want to make a positive ID on the pines. What made that fungus so valuable is that you didn't need to trim or process the fungus in anyway. It was spongy all the way through and once dried would catch a spark very easily.
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Post by offtrail on Jun 17, 2013 7:28:14 GMT -7
I was told that yellow Birch was main tree for Chaga I have white Birch. However white Birch still provides excellent electrolyte sap/water particularity in the spring. I was told in the upper peninsula here in Michigan yellow Birch is available, just haven't made the trip there in a few years to check it out. What partiucler pine have you seen Chaga on? I have several pines in my area. Seems like pines are the tree that keeps on giving. I will check next time i'm up there pike fishing. I want to make a positive ID on the pines. What made that fungus so valuable is that you didn't need to trim or process the fungus in anyway. It was spongy all the way through and once dried would catch a spark very easily.
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Post by cajunlady87 on Jun 17, 2013 8:52:37 GMT -7
I would be more then willing to trade some pinepitch or fatwood for some true birch bark. Wish I could oblige you, I don't have birch trees either. Maybe if you post this on Buy/Sell/Trade topic section you might get some hits.
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Post by offtrail on Jun 17, 2013 9:28:27 GMT -7
I would be more then willing to trade some pinepitch or fatwood for some true birch bark. Wish I could oblige you, I don't have birch trees either. Maybe if you post this on Buy/Sell/Trade topic section you might get some hits. Not a big deal birch bark is something I would like to have. It's not something I need to have. Still if someone would like to have some pine pitch just to see what it's like, let me know
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Post by angelhelp on Jun 17, 2013 16:50:50 GMT -7
OT, I just need this week (last week of school) to end and I can go forage you some decent birch bark. Oh, never mind... MW just informed me that you can have your choice of bark from a downed gray birch and a downed yellow birch. He says he will pick them clean for you.
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Post by woodyz on Jun 17, 2013 18:29:39 GMT -7
www.chagainternational.com/history.aspxYou mean chaga as in the mushroom? Sometimes I find it on a down yellow pine, never found it on a live one. I have a lot of fat wood I would be willing to send to anyone for just shipping, but I don't know if it can be shipped, it sure has a strong turpentine smell. I know the TSA hits on any bag it has been in. I had to wrap mine in tin foil then in a plastic bag, very wet stuff. Found it best to just put strips into an old medicine bottle in my kits. Every pine we have is yellow pine (at least 30 acres) and a fifth of them have some damage where there is fatwood. These yellow pine are always falling in a storm and when they hit another tree and make a scar, there will be fatwood the next year. Had one tree about wrist thick that had a 3 foot piece almost all fatwood. Instead of strips I just cut it into 1" thick discs. But I have learned to keep it either sealed or in a large chunk or just leave it on the tree as it does dry out. Even dry it is better than most anything to get a fire going good. I have used a wood chisel on a big tree to take out the fat wood and leave the tree, then came back and had more.
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Post by woodyz on Jun 17, 2013 18:33:00 GMT -7
Back to what I started here for. My headlamps have a three way switch, white spot, white beam and red, red doesn't blind your team or show up a mile away, and once you get used to it you can see just fine on a trail or open, not so good in thick brush or mountain climbing.
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Post by orly152 on Jun 17, 2013 20:23:08 GMT -7
Back to what I started here for. My headlamps have a three way switch, white spot, white beam and red, red doesn't blind your team or show up a mile away, and once you get used to it you can see just fine on a trail or open, not so good in thick brush or mountain climbing. What brand is it woodyz ?
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