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Post by Cwi555 on Jul 1, 2012 9:54:58 GMT -7
I have NO clue what that all means, as I have NO clue about reloading ammo whatsoever (wish I did)...other than I saw a shotgun go off in a mans face, that was using reload ammo...scared the heck out of me and really did a number on him!! So....does that mean none of it is useable? None of the 22lr is. (though if you shoot a lot of it, the scrap price of brass is getting so high, it makes it worth gathering it up.) If you hold a 38 round in your and, you will not the end opposite the bullet has a rim around it that the 9mm, 40, and 45 does not have. When you load a 38, you will note that the rim keeps the round from falling into the chamber. It also sits snug in the cylinder when you close it. Head space means the fit of the round in the chamber that supports the case wall (side of the round) so that the pressure of the round firing is contained properly. If the round is not in head space (out of tolerance) and fires, it risk blowing up out of battery, and or excessive pressure in the gun that blows the gun up. There is a plus or minus tolerance to that depending on the round. Each specific type of round must be properly head spaced. They do not all head space in the same fashion. For the 9mm round, the area where the case meets the bullet should have a noticeable lip. That is where it head spaces. When the round chambers, it stops on that lip. If you look into the chamber area of the firearm while your cleaning it, you will see a matching recess meant to stop the round from going any further into the chamber. If a 9mm round has that lip compressed to much, so that it won't stop at that chamber recess, you've got a problem. conversely, if the brass is to long, or the chamber/breach not right, it can fire out of battery meaning the round is out of the chamber to far, if this happens, again you have a problem. Rifle cartridges either head space on a belt (300 mag for instance) or on the shoulder of the case. If you take your AK round out and look at it, the bullet is seated in the neck, where the neck turns out to the main body of the case is considered the shoulder. That is where those kind of rounds head space. The distance from the shoulder to the base of the case is your head space. I am sure others will chime in here, but it's not as hard as it sounds to reload. |
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Post by John Galt on Jul 1, 2012 10:33:59 GMT -7
No crimp?  Did you anneal them by hand (with a torch) or use an annealing machine? Glad to see you just throw the powder. I always laugh when people say they weigh each charge... especially for semi-autos. Good luck at the match. Hope you get a chance to pick up your brass. |
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Post by John Galt on Jul 1, 2012 10:38:25 GMT -7
We store our powder on the shelf in factory containers for immediate use. Any powder we actually store is in a metal locker Dad calls a "Magazine" in an undisclosed location. WCR Keeping gun powder in the house or anywhere around it always bothered me  Smokeless powder is not as bad as people think. Black powder is a little different. |
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Post by woodscstmreloaded on Jul 1, 2012 17:30:17 GMT -7
Now that the formatting is squared away, the content was excellent. I agree with WC's teaching you old school measurement. (noting the dial caliper's as well) If you take care of it, it will not fail you like the digital ones will. Thanks for fixing the pics! Yes Sir, Dad ensures we master Old School anything before we are allowed to use any gee wizz things. Everything from Post hole diggers to log splitters. WCR |
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Post by sirderrin on Jul 1, 2012 17:38:07 GMT -7
Very nice job! Keep it up  |
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Post by wtrfwlr on Jul 1, 2012 17:41:19 GMT -7
Is there a chance you are in the market for an older brother? Maybe a much older brother |
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Post by USCGME2 on Jul 1, 2012 18:14:20 GMT -7
Great spread here WCR. I personally use an old school Ohaus scale and its as accurate as all get out. I have that same RCBS powder drop and I love it. My Rem 700 30/06 just loves Speer 165 Grand Slams over 4895 IMR loaded to about 2700fps. Its a bit on the slow side but gives me the best groups. How often do you spot check your powder drops? I like to check at every 10th one or so. Thats just me....Again, nice work young man and I cant wait to see the one ragged hole you put in the target! |
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Post by Cwi555 on Jul 1, 2012 18:53:57 GMT -7
Now that the formatting is squared away, the content was excellent. I agree with WC's teaching you old school measurement. (noting the dial caliper's as well) If you take care of it, it will not fail you like the digital ones will. Thanks for fixing the pics! Yes Sir, Dad ensures we master Old School anything before we are allowed to use any gee wizz things. Everything from Post hole diggers to log splitters. WCR Excellent. My grandpa taught me the same way. You may find it a pain now and then, but you'll be thanking him for teaching you that way later when all your peers are clueless and you have the only solution in the bunch. |
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Post by woodscustom on Jul 2, 2012 15:29:44 GMT -7
My Rem 700 30/06 just loves Speer 165 Grand Slams over 4895 IMR loaded to about 2700fps. Its a bit on the slow side but gives me the best groups. How often do you spot check your powder drops? I like to check at every 10th one or so. Thats just me....Again, nice work young man and I cant wait to see the one ragged hole you put in the target! IMR 4895 is a SLAMMIN GOOD powder for the 30-06, and the M1 Garand. 4064 shoots pretty darn good, but when it comes to the $$$$$$ shoot, IMR 4895 brings home the money with 175 Match Kings. WC |
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Post by rickL675 on Jul 5, 2012 9:59:25 GMT -7
Awesome, thanks for the tutorial and good luck on your match. |
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Post by lonewufcry on Jul 5, 2012 10:12:38 GMT -7
WCR best of luck with your match and thank you for this posting. WC thansk for taking the time to teach WCR the "old school way" first. it also reminded me to get a new trimmer.
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Post by Redneckidokie on Jul 5, 2012 10:44:44 GMT -7
Very nice job. Your on a path to be proud of.
Dad is not doing too bad either. Good kids today are a rare thing. ;D
Hope you guys bring home the trophy.
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Post by woodyz on Jul 5, 2012 15:31:52 GMT -7
My Rem 700 30/06 just loves Speer 165 Grand Slams over 4895 IMR loaded to about 2700fps. Its a bit on the slow side but gives me the best groups. How often do you spot check your powder drops? I like to check at every 10th one or so. Thats just me....Again, nice work young man and I cant wait to see the one ragged hole you put in the target! IMR 4895 is a SLAMMIN GOOD powder for the 30-06, and the M1 Garand. 4064 shoots pretty darn good, but when it comes to the $$$$$$ shoot, IMR 4895 brings home the money with 175 Match Kings. WC How many grains of IMR 4895 for the 175 MKHPBT? |
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Post by woodscustom on Jul 5, 2012 17:38:42 GMT -7
IMR 4895 is a SLAMMIN GOOD powder for the 30-06, and the M1 Garand. 4064 shoots pretty darn good, but when it comes to the $$$$$$ shoot, IMR 4895 brings home the money with 175 Match Kings. WC How many grains of IMR 4895 for the 175 MKHPBT? A safe load in our M1 is 47.0 grains of IMR 4895 with a 175 MKHPBT. Not Crimped in commertial brass, WLR Primers. WICKED ACCURATE.... Less than 1 MOA at 100 with Irons, 5 shot group. WC |
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Post by woodyz on Jul 5, 2012 18:34:24 GMT -7
Thanks WoodsCustom.
I have been loading with 58 grains of IMR 4831 with no complaints, but am always looking for new loads.
I used the 4831 because that is what I use in my .243.
Do you know of a load for 7.62x39 using either IMR 4831 or 4895?
I like multi uses but will add or change if I find anything better.
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