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Post by tjwilhelm on Sept 22, 2012 22:37:56 GMT -7
Back in June, Offtrail did a great video on how to tie the "Butterfly Loop." Thanks, Offtrail!
PLEASE note: This is NOT intended as a competitve post. Rather, it is more of a complimentary/supplemental video because it shows a different method of tying the knot and discusses a specific, emergency/survival application for the knot.
I hope one or two folks find it useful...
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Post by mud on Sept 23, 2012 12:57:04 GMT -7
very helpful TJ thanks for posting
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Post by garret on Sept 23, 2012 18:53:22 GMT -7
2 things come to mind from this vid.
1) excellent presentation of a very easy way to tie an alpine butterfly loop
2) nice to see you looking so fit and healthy again TJ
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Post by mud on Sept 23, 2012 22:55:42 GMT -7
+1 you seem to be moving much better tj
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Post by Georgia Survivor on Sept 24, 2012 3:14:41 GMT -7
Nice to learn a new knot. Regarding the damaged rope tip, is this knot better than say, cutting the rope at the damaged point and tying the two ropes together with something like a square knot?
O.S.
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Post by tjwilhelm on Sept 24, 2012 7:59:13 GMT -7
Nice to learn a new knot. Regarding the damaged rope tip, is this knot better than say, cutting the rope at the damaged point and tying the two ropes together with something like a square knot? O.S. Holy cow, YES! The square knot is well known to slip, and its knot efficiency is less than 45%! No square knots, please! Knots that tie two rope-ends together are called "bends." A square knot is NOT a good "bend." You could cut the rope and use an appropriate "bend;" but, why take the extra time and effort (especially in an emergency situation) when the problem can be fixed in a matter of seconds with a quick Alpine Butterfly?
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Post by pathwinder14 on Sept 24, 2012 11:27:47 GMT -7
Good Video. How does the A.B. compare to Sheet Bend breaking strength?
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Post by tjwilhelm on Sept 24, 2012 13:42:52 GMT -7
As best I understand, the efficiency of the sheet bend is a tad under 50%. Also, while it can be used for joing to end of the same rope, it's intended use is for joining two ropes of different diameter. Then, you would be losing a tad more than 50% of the breaking strength of the smaller/weaker rope.
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Post by xwing on Sept 24, 2012 14:02:36 GMT -7
Gosh I love learning a new knot! im a knot freak....but where are the girls in bathing suits to boost veiws:)
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Post by offtrail on Sept 24, 2012 14:55:56 GMT -7
Gosh I love learning a new knot! im a knot freak....but where are the girls in bathing suits to boost veiws:) Now your talking ;D
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Post by offtrail on Sept 24, 2012 15:01:26 GMT -7
tj no problem here buddy. I love the fact that you came up with a new way of tying the Butterfly....great job
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Post by garret on Sept 24, 2012 15:03:38 GMT -7
top hat and tails and a couple of dancing girls in spangly outfits and he could take it on the road
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Post by offtrail on Sept 24, 2012 16:24:58 GMT -7
top hat and tails and a couple of dancing girls in spangly outfits and he could take it on the road LOl
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Post by xwing on Sept 24, 2012 16:30:07 GMT -7
i'D BUY THAT FOR A DOLLAR!
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Post by thywar on Sept 24, 2012 17:16:02 GMT -7
Another big spender... lol... (me too!!!)
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