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Post by Cwi555 on Oct 7, 2012 17:11:57 GMT -7
Sometimes it's a good idea to stop and ask yourself "what am I assuming?"
It can be something your assuming will be there when SHTF, or it could be something you practice so frequently that it's second nature to you, but not necessarily for others that could benefit from that knowledge.
It really doesn't matter how good you are, how well prepared, somewhere there is an assumption. So what assumption are you making?
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Post by Ceorlmann on Oct 7, 2012 17:39:10 GMT -7
I know I'm guilty of assumptions on a daily basis, but I try to work them so I assume something unexpected or bad is going to happen. This puts me on a level of alertness appropriate to either react or be proactive of that something happening.
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Post by Cwi555 on Oct 7, 2012 17:58:41 GMT -7
I know I'm guilty of assumptions on a daily basis, but I try to work them so I assume something unexpected or bad is going to happen. This puts me on a level of alertness appropriate to either react or be proactive of that something happening. Same here, but remember there is a point of negative returns to that. My most common problem assumption is assuming what others know. That can get them and me killed. I was reminded of that in the coal thread by OT. Not everyone realizes the necessity of proper ventilation for coal burning stoves. We had a class on the subject among our group today and only half of them knew why. We all have dual purpose stoves, and normally use wood. It could have went badly for those that didnt know had they used any of there coal reserves. |
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Post by angelhelp on Oct 7, 2012 18:39:14 GMT -7
OK, this is the 4th time I've started typing something and then, dissatisfied with my answer, begun again. I'll begin by saying that coal isn't included in our preps since we have no source.
I tend to assume that everyone else sees the logic of why I do certain things in a certain way. I'm constantly reminded by #2 son that there's my way, then there's his way, and he's never going to do things my way. It may or may not get him killed, and I have to live with that.
I may be assuming too much physical ability for Airborne and me. I thought about this at my birthday dinner tonight; we're both more than old enough to be grandparents and our bodies show the wear & tear. He has a lot of good old-fashioned common sense and adjusts to conditions well. I'm definitely guilty of assuming we'll all be alive since that's the basis for our earliest steps to take when TSHTF.
I'd always assumed Ceorlmann will be present but this may not be the case. I know he'd like to return to Switzerland for several different reasons. I know that without him, there'll be a significant hole in our group.
I'm under no illusions about supplies stored; more are needed and the situation can only be rectified a little at a time.
When one's children are young and dependent, it's easy to see oneself as "essential". It's a little harder to get past that once they're grown. I am no longer essential; the boys have been raised the best way I knew how. It's up to them to carry on as best they can. I'm convinced that Ceorlmann will have a better chance thanks to his training. It is probable that #2 son will fall victim to his own assumptions about himself and his knowledge base. For instance, he sees no reason to be armed.
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Post by woodyz on Oct 7, 2012 18:40:23 GMT -7
Very good CWI, very good example, I was trying to head a different direction but this is too good to let go off.
In my distant past everything was based on the assumptions that whomever was supposed to do what would happen, everything depended on everyone.
In a way I got spoiled by being able to make those same assumptions and later when I depended on it, the assumption failed. Someone was less then five feet out of position and my people got hurt as a result.
The hardest thing for me to do as I got older and moved into management was to depend on other people, to complete the details. Making the assumption their training was complete, they would act as expected.
So much is in the smaller details and so much can result in making the assumption someone else knows what they are supposed to know.
Very good example. I'll bet everyone can find something based off of this in their history.
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Post by missj on Oct 7, 2012 20:51:30 GMT -7
I make the assumption that I will be present with my family in order to "guide" them to all my preps and knowledge and plans.
I make the assumption that if we decide to hole up right here, our neighbors will be willing to help with security considerations for the good of the whole neighborhood....
I make the assumption that no matter where we are, we will be able to get back home
I make the assumption that our whole family will remain intact throughout the event
I realize that most of these are naive....
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Post by thywar on Oct 7, 2012 21:49:04 GMT -7
I make the assumption that I will be present with my family in order to "guide" them to all my preps and knowledge and plans. I make the assumption that if we decide to hole up right here, our neighbors will be willing to help with security considerations for the good of the whole neighborhood.... I make the assumption that no matter where we are, we will be able to get back home I make the assumption that our whole family will remain intact throughout the event I realize that most of these are naive.... But positive assumptions are critical.. just as recognizing that they could blow up all of your assumptions. Everyday assumptions will come into play always in every situation. Assumptions, guesses, dang well knowing that is exactly what will happen, dang well knowing that is exactly what won't happen.. I'm pretty sure that's how life experiences are determined.. sometimes knowledge gets in the way of assumptions.. but I'd rather have the knowledge and pray my assumptions are right. |
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Post by Ceorlmann on Oct 8, 2012 5:29:25 GMT -7
Hmm. OK I'll give my specifics:
outside of those of angelhelp's (as mine in those sense are one and the same)
I assume that no one in our group will really be able to do any of the training I'd like to put them through until after things went down. I say that based off of our current schedules, and presence of our current gubby.
I assume that I may end up killing a lot of predators in a short period of time.
I assume right now that my fiancee will make it into the US Air Force (a big time game changer, but hopefully for the better).
I assume that at least myself and my fiancee will pull through and we can start things over, considering our present age as well as our ability to work together.
I assume that provided we are all together post SHTF I will be in charge of keeping things secure.
I assume that if I do go back to Switzerland 1) my fiancee will come with me, especially if she has the financial means to do so
2) I will join their military as soon as possible.
3) The friends I made over there will welcome me and my fiancee (I already made it clear to multiple friends over there that "I may be coming back in a big hurry!")
And my longest-shot of an assumption: me and my fiancee will have gotten married before things go down. Our present date, assuming I don't win the audition, is in 2014 after I graduate college. If I make the audition and they need me in right away, then summer 2013 depending on if my request goes through with my chain of command or not.
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Post by mud on Oct 8, 2012 6:10:59 GMT -7
I assume because it is obvious to me it is to everyone else too
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Post by missasip on Oct 8, 2012 6:27:06 GMT -7
Well I'm the odd ball out. I never assume anything.
Asumming things in the past never got me anywhere nor did it make any difference. I don't even assume the sun will come up everyday.
There is an old saying the says; "When you assume, you make an "ass" out of "U" and "me"..".
Assumptions can get one in a bind. I perfer not to be put in a bind.
I'm sure the line of work I was in caused most of my unassuming ways. You work with 12kv to 23kv everyday, you better not assume anything or it will get you dead.
Just my experience anyway.
Jimmy
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Post by urbanprep on Oct 8, 2012 7:04:54 GMT -7
i assume people will listen when i instruct them, if something goes down
(but in the back of my head I know i am fooling myself)
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Post by Lawdog2705 on Oct 8, 2012 7:29:27 GMT -7
I would have to say I assume nothing will go the way I've planned it. So, if it happens that way, I'm not let down. I really don't like to assume. I think it can be dangerous. You know the old saying, when you assume you make an "a** out of u and me. I also believe in Murphy's Law, so I try to always be prepared...like a good scout.  Never assume and never take for granted. As much as I like to believe things would turn out a certain way in a SHTF, I have to be realistic and know there are just too many variables that may change that. I don't think this is negative thinking but, more positive because it forces me to be prepared as much as I possibly can...IMHO! |
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Post by xwing on Oct 8, 2012 9:26:44 GMT -7
I assume that everyone thinks rationally and responcibly and wil act accordingly.......lol ... it never happens , but I try to give them the benifit of a dought.  ( This from a guy wearing a garbage can lid on his head while driving an 18 wheeler) |
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Post by Lawdog2705 on Oct 8, 2012 9:37:54 GMT -7
I assume that everyone thinks rationally and responcibly and wil act accordingly.......lol ... it never happens , but I try to give them the benifit of a dought. ( This from a guy wearing a garbage can lid on his head while driving an 18 wheeler) THAT'S what that is! I never could figure out what was on your head...LOL! |
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Post by geron on Oct 8, 2012 10:24:43 GMT -7
I assume that everyone thinks rationally and responcibly and wil act accordingly.......lol ... it never happens , but I try to give them the benifit of a dought. ( This from a guy wearing a garbage can lid on his head while driving an 18 wheeler) Most appropriate . . . GIGO. |
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Never assume and never take for granted.
