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Post by marc on Feb 23, 2013 17:41:51 GMT -7
Anyone have actual hands on experience? I don't. They are of course rare, but I have a lead on the really rare version with 10" barrel in stainless. Reported to have exactly one magazine run through it. I'm out of my league so just wondering what to look for beyond the obvious with any gun. I've put the time in reading what's on the net (a LOT) but I'm asking for actual hands on experience because we seem to have a diverse group here.
Same guy is also selling his Desert Eagle .50 AE in black chrome and his 44 mag Desert Eagle in stainless. Both reported to be unfired. Medical problems have put him over a barrel so some of his collection has to go. It's a 6 hour drive to meet with him two weeks from now.
Marc
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Post by Cwi555 on Feb 23, 2013 17:48:01 GMT -7
Anyone have actual hands on experience? I don't. They are of course rare, but I have a lead on the really rare version with 10" barrel in stainless. Reported to have exactly one magazine run through it. I'm out of my league so just wondering what to look for beyond the obvious with any gun. I've put the time in reading what's on the net (a LOT) but I'm asking for actual hands on experience because we seem to have a diverse group here. Same guy is also selling his Desert Eagle .50 AE in black chrome and his 44 mag Desert Eagle in stainless. Both reported to be unfired. Medical problems have put him over a barrel so some of his collection has to go. It's a 6 hour drive to meet with him two weeks from now. Marc I had one of the 10" automags. It's nice for a collectors piece, but I tend to shoot everything I own, and shooting it is not exactly practical cost wise. |
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Post by Cwi555 on Feb 23, 2013 17:49:42 GMT -7
As a side note, it did get a lot of attention at the range. It's also guaranteed to get someones attention if they get it stuck in their face.
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Post by Ceorlmann on Feb 23, 2013 17:55:30 GMT -7
I had one of the 10" automags. It's nice for a collectors piece, but I tend to shoot everything I own, and shooting it is not exactly practical cost wise. Lol, I have that same problem. If it ain't a shooter I'm not interested. Makes Beowulf and the 500 financially problematic when BANG! (there goes $2) BANG! (there goes another $2) BANG! (that was $2.50) |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2013 19:47:14 GMT -7
Have fired one but felt the revolver offered more.
This is all I really know about them.
The .44 Auto Mag Pistol (AMP) cartridge was introduced in 1971.[1] Its rimless, straight wall case was originally formed by trimming the .308 Winchester or .30-06 case to 1.30 inches (33 mm).[1] Loaded ammunition was once available from the Mexican firm of Cartuchos Deportivos Mexico and from Norma (a Swedish firm), which produced empty cases.[1]
The .357AMP round went into production in 1972 with the North Hollywood guns.[1] It is similar to the .44 AMP, but is necked down to accept the smaller diameter bullet. The same is true for the .41JMP, .30, .25 and .22LMP.[1]
Presently, loaded ammunition is available from Cor-Bon, and new .44 AMP brass is available from Starline Brass. The dedicated handloader can form AMP cases from .30-06 or .308 Winchester brass, using a series of forming dies and an inside neck reamer.[1]
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Post by woodyz on Feb 23, 2013 20:59:27 GMT -7
We had a .44 revolver for a while, not even talking about the cost I didn't want to shoot it. It was single action which gave you time to intend the next round to fire, I can't even imagine trying to keep up with an auto loader in that caliber at this stage of my life.
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Post by marc on Feb 24, 2013 20:11:30 GMT -7
Just to be clear: It's not intended to be a shooter, it will be a safe queen for someone who can afford it - not me. They really are quite hard to find in 10.5" so sellers don't let go easily. Historically, prices are all over the board, but I'm more worried about what types of problems or early failures are most common with these.
Will post some pictures if I end up with it for a short time.
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Post by insaneh on Feb 25, 2013 2:53:50 GMT -7
Anyone have actual hands on experience? I don't. They are of course rare, but I have a lead on the really rare version with 10" barrel in stainless. Reported to have exactly one magazine run through it. I'm out of my league so just wondering what to look for beyond the obvious with any gun. I've put the time in reading what's on the net (a LOT) but I'm asking for actual hands on experience because we seem to have a diverse group here. Same guy is also selling his Desert Eagle .50 AE in black chrome and his 44 mag Desert Eagle in stainless. Both reported to be unfired. Medical problems have put him over a barrel so some of his collection has to go. It's a 6 hour drive to meet with him two weeks from now. Marc I've been looking for a reasonably priced DE 44. for quite a while now. Or maybe I'm just cheap. |
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Post by Cwi555 on Feb 25, 2013 3:34:19 GMT -7
That being the case, I'd say go for it then. Mechanically it's solid, just high $$$$ to shoot. Just to be clear: It's not intended to be a shooter, it will be a safe queen for someone who can afford it - not me. They really are quite hard to find in 10.5" so sellers don't let go easily. Historically, prices are all over the board, but I'm more worried about what types of problems or early failures are most common with these. Will post some pictures if I end up with it for a short time. |
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Post by hunter63 on Feb 25, 2013 9:17:12 GMT -7
They are a novelty....and since they closed Buick season in Wisconsin....haven't given them much thought.
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Post by hunter63 on Feb 25, 2013 9:48:29 GMT -7
Have fired one but felt the revolver offered more. This is all I really know about them. The .44 Auto Mag Pistol (AMP) cartridge was introduced in 1971.[1] Its rimless, straight wall case was originally formed by trimming the .308 Winchester or .30-06 case to 1.30 inches (33 mm).[1] Loaded ammunition was once available from the Mexican firm of Cartuchos Deportivos Mexico and from Norma (a Swedish firm), which produced empty cases.[1] The .357AMP round went into production in 1972 with the North Hollywood guns.[1] It is similar to the .44 AMP, but is necked down to accept the smaller diameter bullet. The same is true for the .41JMP, .30, .25 and .22LMP.[1] Presently, loaded ammunition is available from Cor-Bon, and new .44 AMP brass is available from Starline Brass. The dedicated handloader can form AMP cases from .30-06 or .308 Winchester brass, using a series of forming dies and an inside neck reamer.[1] So which is it .308 or 30-06......case diameters are not really close. |
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Post by marc on Feb 25, 2013 11:21:51 GMT -7
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Post by hunter63 on Feb 25, 2013 12:22:10 GMT -7
Yeah I here ya.....
There are a lot of wildcats around that are based on both the 30-06 and .308.
I had a guy tell me how to make Russian 7.62 pistol rounds for a .223 case.
In volved squeese the brass of a .223 down with a .30 cal cabine die till it bottoms out at a ridge at the base.
This forms a rim (7.62 rounds are rimmed).
Next step is to cut down the "ridge" you just formed, by chucked it up in a lath, and using 10 fine hack saw blades bolted togther as a cutter.
Cut case to length.
Then use a set 32-20 win dies for loading.
Lot of this stuff is around the shop, so was considering trying it.....untill found a spam can for klow bucks at Sportsman Guide, so kinda gave if up....LOL
I can recall in one of the "Death Wish" flicks....Charles Bronson is cutting down brass and reloading either a .44 auto mag. or a .500 S&W and blowing bad guys away from a block away........used to love those flicks.
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Post by missasip on Feb 26, 2013 4:03:34 GMT -7
I tell ya Marc, I had access to one back in the late 70s, early 80s. It was ok. Kinda of unweldy handling. Fair amount of recoil that was ok to handle. At the time I had a 29 that I much prefered.
But I assume investment is more of what you are interested in anyway. Ammo is a pure PITA. Seemed brass had to be trimmed to length everytime it was fired, a bunch. Brass had a short life IIRC.
It was a handful for sure.
Good luck on your quest...
Jimmy
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