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Post by geauxfish on Mar 8, 2013 15:21:53 GMT -7
I was at my local sporting goods store this morning and saw silk sleeping bag liners for $14. They compress very nicely and do not take up much room at all.
Do any of you keep something similar in your BOB?
What's the material preference: polyester, cotton, or the manmade silk?
I was thinking that this might be a good alternative to a full sleeping bag. Especially down in Louisiana in the summer time.
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Post by kutkota on Mar 8, 2013 15:40:05 GMT -7
I have silk undershirts and they are hot as all get out.
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Post by woodyz on Mar 8, 2013 17:01:21 GMT -7
You bet! We use the cotton poly blend for like $49. We use them in hotel rooms (they might change the sheets every day but not the blankets or top cover ) in a hammock in the summer or at the beach or lake and inside the sleeping bag. We picked the cotton poly because it compresses good, can just be thrown in the washer and dryer and feels good. We tried the silk and didn't like it as much and the cotton didn't wear as well. They work for me, I like them.
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Post by dtucker on Mar 8, 2013 20:13:57 GMT -7
My favorite sleeping bag of all time was one that was flannel on one side and polyester on the other. I hated the polyester side and love the flannel even in the summer. I had it for years and haven't found another one like again.
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Post by garret on Mar 8, 2013 20:35:37 GMT -7
i used to use them all the time but with the new sleeping bag i have it is a doddle to wash so i dont bother, i find them very constrictive too.
but when i used them i had a 100% cotton one because it was cool in summer and warm in winter
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Post by woodyz on Mar 8, 2013 22:42:15 GMT -7
I do agree on the constrictive, that is why we went to the doubles ones but use as a single, loys of room.
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Post by thywar on Mar 9, 2013 8:12:25 GMT -7
I use a poncho liner, US Army. Warm and easy to pack and handy. Bag liner or under a poncho. Very handy. Green camo
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Post by mud on Mar 9, 2013 13:41:58 GMT -7
i have the poly/cotton liner for my mummy bag. makes it pretty warm and if my bivy cover ever shows up i will have my own sleep system.
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Post by swamprat1 on Mar 9, 2013 17:05:53 GMT -7
I prefer the poncho liners also.
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Post by Cwi555 on Mar 9, 2013 17:59:43 GMT -7
You bet! We use the cotton poly blend for like $49. We use them in hotel rooms (they might change the sheets every day but not the blankets or top cover ) in a hammock in the summer or at the beach or lake and inside the sleeping bag. We picked the cotton poly because it compresses good, can just be thrown in the washer and dryer and feels good. We tried the silk and didn't like it as much and the cotton didn't wear as well. They work for me, I like them. If you ever carried a high intensity black light into a hotel room, you'd be going off to the store to buy some cleaning supplies.
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Post by angelhelp on Mar 9, 2013 18:08:37 GMT -7
Why high-intensity? To make the urine stains stand out more?
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Post by Cwi555 on Mar 9, 2013 18:43:27 GMT -7
Why high-intensity? To make the urine stains stand out more? Most body fluids are florescent underneath the ultraviolet spectrum, but not equally so. Urine is the easiest one to spot. Others are weakly florescent. In order of decreasing florescence intensity: - Urine
- Semen
- Saliva
- Blood (depends on wavelength of the UV)
- Sweat
- Vaginal Secretion
Starting with Saliva, a high intensity UV light is required, and with the last one, it requires a darkened room, and a very strong UV light. I always carry a high intensity UV light. Most hotels are accommodating if you tell them why you need the cleaning supplies.
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Post by angelhelp on Mar 10, 2013 5:39:22 GMT -7
I knew about the urine and vaguely suspected the others, although I thought for blood it required the spray whose name eludes me at the moment. Folks with cats are likely to run into the info when it comes to locating cat urine stains.
I've seen uv flashlights for sale. Can you suggest a good uv light to carry?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2013 7:56:34 GMT -7
Found some flannel summer/slumber bags by Coleman at wally world a year back ,,,on sale for 5 bucks ea.,, they work good both as a liner and alone (down to around 45*) as a liner raise the rating maybe 8 to 10* on the SWAG scale.
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Post by Cwi555 on Mar 10, 2013 11:29:11 GMT -7
I knew about the urine and vaguely suspected the others, although I thought for blood it required the spray whose name eludes me at the moment. Folks with cats are likely to run into the info when it comes to locating cat urine stains. I've seen uv flashlights for sale. Can you suggest a good uv light to carry? For consistency, blood usually requires a reagent. The reagent kicks the response into the average range. UV light exist from 10nm to 400nm, the subsequent florescence kicks it into the human visible range which starts at 360 and up depending on the person. After that, each of the fluids have a specific emissivity value/luminous emittance value. Emissivity is the relative ability of a material to radiate energy as compared to a known value. The varying levels of intensity are due to the differences in emissivity of the fluid relative to the exciting energy (UV). The lower the luminous emittance rating is (energy released), the higher the intensity (luminous exposure) that is required to see it. It is the oxygen in blood that causes the problem on the low end of the spectrum with a low emissivity value. Most of the UV lights require the reagent as they need it to get the response into their emission range. Second to that, it's hit or miss if you can see it, as the emission is barely in the human visible range. 7 out of 10 people will not be able to see it without the reagent kicking it up to a higher emission state. I had the LED's specifically tailored for mine as I use it for other purposes (inspections) as well. For this purpose, you can search "crime scene uv" and get some hits on them such as this one. www.crimescene.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=70I didn't used to scan a hotel up until the late 90's. I had used UV lights for inspections, particular LPI, MPI, and hydro testing of industrial coolant/refrigeration lines. A hydro test is simply over pressuring the line and looking for it to leak. Some of those fluids would vaporize fast in the atmosphere, which made leaks easy to miss. Using UV, it was easy to spot. You can also use them to spot leaks in standard HVAC, refrigerators, and other fluids. In this particular case, I was checking mine after the days work on a UV meter for cal out. I flashed it around the room intent on illuminating a wall when I noticed the hotel bed cover looked like a spotted cow under it. I've never entered a hotel room since without one. Make sure your getting an intensity that is at least 100 lumens/foot candles. Look for the FL-1 verification on the package. FL-1 is the current ANSI standard. If you see it, it means it was tested on an actual light meter instead of a bubba meter for good enough.
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