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[Ceorlmann]

Elena came today with bayonet plus subscription. Two other magazine subscriptions for her came today as well. Everything matches on the gun except for the bayonet (diff. number) plus the subscriptions. Even the wood matches.


Pictures to come later.

[woodyz]

Just some info you may already know that will help on matching which rifle you have to which bullet you find, plus a couple of reloading options. I like the straight pullback bolts, although once you are used to up an back just doing straight back can take some getting used to. I good consistent shooter fully capable of 500 yard+ shots with open sights and 1000 yard shoots with sight options. Also stays super sonic to 800 yards.

GP90 and GP90/03 cartridges [edit]
7.5 mm Swiss cartridges have been in Swiss Army service since 1889 in their Schmidt-Rubin Model 1889 rifles. Originally using a semi-smokeless powder the cartridge was known as the Gewehrpatrone 1890 (GP90). It was discovered that the primer of GP90 ammunition was far too corrosive so it was updated in 1903 to the GP90/03 cartridge.
While the scarcity of reloadable cartridge cases makes the 7.5 mm Swiss problematic for US shooters, large numbers of surplus rifles - especially the Model 1889 - have been imported. Reloadable cases can be easily produced by reforming .284 Winchester brass. Case rims will be slightly undersized, but this presents no problems so long as the rifle's extractor is in good condition. This allows the handloader to produce a GP90 load that is safe for the Schmidt-Rubin Model 1889 rifle.
GP90/23 the final cartridge variant for the Model 1889 rifle [edit]
Long after the discontinuation of the Schmidt-Rubin Model 1889 rifle in the Swiss Armed Forces the GP90/03 round was updated in 1923 and called the GP90/23, for use in shooting competitions. The GP90/23 discarded the paper patching around the bullet and the semi-smokeless powder was replaced by smokeless powder propellant.
The GP 11 cartridge [edit]


Swiss Army issue 10-round GP 11 pack.
In 1911 the metallurgy and bolt design in Swiss military rifles had advanced enough that a more powerful cartridge could be used in the Model 1911 rifles and Schmidt-Rubin 1896/11 rifles. The 7.5 mm Swiss round was updated to the completely non-corrosive Gewehrpatrone 1911 (GP 11). Besides being used in the Model 1911 rifles and Schmidt-Rubin 1896/11 rifles, GP 11 ammunition was also used in the MG 11 machine gun, K11 and K31 carbines as well as in the Stgw 57 battle rifle. The cartridge saw extensive service until the early 1990s with the standard rifles of Swiss servicemen, and still sees use by Swiss Army reservists, and sport shooters, of which there are many. Furthermore, it is still the standard ammunition for the MG 51 general purpose machine gun used on many Swiss armored vehicles such as the Pz 87 "Leopard 2" tank or the MOWAG Eagle Reconnaissance Vehicle. In this role, it is usually belt fed with GP 11 full metal jacket and GP 11 tracer rounds.
The 11.3 gram (174 grain) Full Metal Jacket GP 11 spitzer bullet offered good aerodynamic efficiency and ballistic performance with a ballistic coefficient (G1 BC) of 0.505 to 0.514 (ballistic coefficients are somewhat debatable). At 780 m/s (2560 ft/s) muzzle velocity the standard GP 11 ball bullet retained supersonic velocity up to 800 m (875 yards) (V800 ≈ Mach 1.1) under ICAO Standard Atmosphere conditions at sea level (air density ρ = 1.225 kg/m3). Even by contemporary (2007) standards 800 m (875 yards) typical effective range is quite remarkable for a standard military rifle round.[2]
GP 11 is regarded as highly accurate and well-manufactured ammunition. Due to the increased availability of K31 rifles on the civilian market, a number of cartridge manufacturers, including Prvi Partizan and Hornady, now produce 7.5×55mm rounds in full metal jacket, soft-tip, and ballistic tip configurations.
In addition to the standard Full Metal Jacket GP 11 rounds, specialty rounds were produced as well. Armor-piercing steel-cored rounds can be identified by their violet bases. These rounds can easily pierce 5 mm (0.2 in) of steel plate at 500 m (550 yards). Tracer rounds burn out to 800 m (875 yards), and can be identified by their red tips.[3]
Despite its nomenclature, the 7.5×55mm Swiss can with proper care use the same 7.62 mm (.308 in) bullets as conventional Western 7.62 mm (.308 in) cartridges that have slightly wider land and groove diameters. This allows for ease of handloading and custom competition or hunting loads, as nearly any .308 diameter bullet may be used. However, most Swiss match shooters use standard GP 11 ammunition, a testament to the accuracy of the GP 11 round.
Specifications [edit]

Variants overview [edit]


Stripper clip with 7.5×55mm Swiss GP 11 cartridges.
GP90 GP90/03 GP90/23 GP 11
Cartridge 7.5×53.5mm 7.5×53.5mm 7.5×54.5mm 7.5×55mm
Case length 2.106 in 2.106 in 2.15 in 2.185 in
Rim diameter 0.492 in 0.492 in 0.5 in 0.496 in
Head diameter 0.488 in 0.488 in 0.496 in 0.493 in
Neck diameter
(w/ paper patch) 0.362 in
(0.362 in) 0.362 in
(0.335 in) 0.328 in 0.334 in
Bullet 211 gr 211 gr 190 gr 174 gr
Bullet diameter
(w/ paper patch) 0.3208 in
(0.3075 in) 0.3208 in
(0.3086 in) 0.3075 in 0.306 in
Bullet length 1.14 in 1.14 in 1.165 in 1.378 in
Muzzle velocity 1968 ft/s 1980 ft/s 2050 ft/s 2560 ft/s

Max. service load chamber pressure
(Swiss standards) 36,970 psi 36,970 psi 38,390 psi 45,500 psi
Due to the greater pressure produced by the GP 11 round, it is not safe to fire GP 11 rounds in Model 1889 Schmidt-Rubin rifles.
7.5×55mm Swiss / GP 11 [edit]
The 7.5×55mm Swiss cartridge has 4.22 ml (65 grains) H2O cartridge case capacity. The exterior shape of the case was designed to promote reliable case feeding and extraction in bolt action rifles and machine guns alike, under extreme conditions.

7.5×55mm Swiss maximum C.I.P. cartridge dimensions. All sizes in millimeters (mm).
Americans would define the shoulder angle at alpha/2 ≈ 30.5 degrees. The common rifling twist rate for this cartridge is 270 mm (1 in 10.63 in), 4 grooves, Ø lands = 7.51 mm, Ø grooves = 7.77 mm, land width = 3.75 mm and the primer type is large rifle.
According to the official C.I.P. (Commission Internationale Permanente pour l'Epreuve des Armes à Feu Portatives) guidelines the 7.5×55mm Swiss case can handle up to 380 MPa (55,114 psi) piezo pressure. In C.I.P. regulated countries every rifle cartridge combo has to be proofed at 125% of this maximum C.I.P. pressure to certify for sale to consumers.
Switzerland is not a C.I.P. member state and therefore does not recognize any C.I.P. rulings and proofed its military 7.5×55mm rifles chambered in the GP 11 version of their service cartridge at 150% of the GP 11 load pressure of 313.717 MPa (45,500 psi). This means a Swiss military proof test would be executed at 1.5 * 313.717 = 470.57 MPa (68,250 psi) and a C.I.P. proof test would be executed at 1.25 * 380 = 475 MPa (68,892 psi). Swiss 7.5×55mm GP 11 proof tests are therefore not recognized in C.I.P. member states in their turn.

[Ceorlmann]

Here's Elena!

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[Ceorlmann]

After working the bolt key I can say that this is a young child-safe gun when the rear bolt is like in the picture. I wouldn't expect any child under the preteen years, or even teen years, to be able to open the bolt and cock it from the safe position. Of course by that point any child of mine will have been well-addressed in firearm safety!

And of course, I won't take the gamble that any kid of mine can't operate the bolt key. Murphy tends to enjoy proving me wrong...

[angelhelp]

If your hypothetical child is a toddler, you're safe. ANY older and I'd have been able to operate the key. With the aforementioned training, fine, but 100% supervision must be in place first.