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Post by angelhelp on Jan 22, 2014 12:56:02 GMT -7
I've locked the other doors out of habit (or kept them locked, in the days before the clickers) since I first had a license. It's the same thing as locking the door of the house the moment I'm through the door. I lock everything when pumping gas.
Parking at the local WM is mostly impossible, even for the folks with a handicap sticker/plate. Like some of you folks, I park at a distance, noting proximity of those near me as I return. I always park so that I can drive straight out because line of sight sucks around here, what with most vehicles having either higher windows than mine or extra-dark tinted windows (they might as well be opaque).
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Post by cajunlady87 on Jan 22, 2014 13:01:50 GMT -7
You forgot one TJ, how about public restrooms?
Pedophiles and other perps favorite hangouts especially at rest areas along interstates.
Of course having someone with you is better than entering them alone. Teenage boys don't want to follow mom into the women's restroom which leaves them highly susceptible to being victims of crime.
Just escorting them to the door and waiting for them doesn't always mean they're safe on the other side of that door, especially at parks.
I dread going to public restrooms because I never know who's gonna follow me in there or who may already be hiding in wait.
Most restaurants have restrooms down long dark halls away from the crowd plus men and women doors are in very close proximity of each other. If I get attacked in a restroom no one will hear me struggling or screaming for help. Definitely a concern of mine.
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Post by kutkota on Jan 22, 2014 13:17:10 GMT -7
well hell, I am doing it all wrong then! I guess it makes sense to not have your gun hand in your pocket. Is it any different civilian versus cop? The bad guy knows a cop has a gun and doesn't know that I do. Parking in the back away from everyone is a good one as well. The advice of keeping your hand free is very much sound. A simple exercise at the range if you will. Get a buddy with a laser pointer to stand behind you randomly painting three targets with the laser. Do this at 3 yards, 5 yards, 7 yards, and 10 yards. Record with a camcorder and tripod at each range for each target, with and without your gun hand in your pocket. Draw and fire with each painting of a target. Targets should ideally be spaced 3 to 5 yards apart laterally. After viewing the tape, it will become graphically clear why it is a good idea, as well as why you should be training with your off hand. For the latter, put your gun hand in your pocket and leave it there. Rinse and repeat (dry fire a few times first) using off hand only as if your gun hand is incapacitated. Hey, Don't you threaten me with another shooting drill! I shot atleast 50/50 with my left hand. I am actually quite good at it. AFter a quick thought I can visualize the problems with the gun hand in the pocket. Along the same lines as hand and arm signals with your none firing hand. Now if I can break the habit. |
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Post by kutkota on Jan 22, 2014 13:20:39 GMT -7
And how about good habits to adopt and develop for other scenarios, other than vehicle related? How about in a large, public crowd, like at a pro football stadium? How about in a small, public crowd, like at a rural, County fair? How about when you're shopping in the big city? How about when you're hiking in a State Park? What are the best clothes/boots/etc. to wear in different scenarios? What should be common EDC items for specific scenarios? What's the best seat to take on a bus, train, or airplane? Where's the best place to sit in a restaurant? AWARENESS is a real key to survival and success; but, we cannot always see and detect everything. Thus, I'm just wondering if we can compensate for lapses in awareness by developing certain, specific, unconscious habits that would automatically kick in under certain circumstances, in certain situations and venues. I have to sit in the last row while in class. I don't think it is a phobia so much as I like to see what is going on. I like to sit in the back corner of the room so if someone comes in guns-a-blazen I am not in the immediate sight. I would imagine the same could be done for restuarants. |
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Post by thywar on Jan 22, 2014 14:00:19 GMT -7
LOL.. threaten you with ANOTHER shooting drill..  That's good.. If you are ever in a donut shop where there are 5 police cars I can assure you one of them is unhappy for having to sit with their back to the door. Gun hand, backs to the door, visibility to the room.. all play a part. This is a good thread and makes one think. I think no matter where you are, state park or rural county fair.. in this day and age it's always good to think like you're about to witness something violent. Things have gotten complacent.. it wasn't that long ago we would have posted about the shooting that took place at Purdue the other day.. and unless I missed it, it didn't pop up.. today they thought they had a shooter at OU in Norman.. turned out to be false but I think these incidents are going to happen more and more frequently. |
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Post by kutkota on Jan 22, 2014 14:08:01 GMT -7
LOL.. threaten you with ANOTHER shooting drill.. That's good.. If you are ever in a donut shop where there are 5 police cars I can assure you one of them is unhappy for having to sit with their back to the door. Gun hand, backs to the door, visibility to the room.. all play a part. This is a good thread and makes one think. I think no matter where you are, state park or rural county fair.. in this day and age it's always good to think like you're about to witness something violent. Things have gotten complacent.. it wasn't that long ago we would have posted about the shooting that took place at Purdue the other day.. and unless I missed it, it didn't pop up.. today they thought they had a shooter at OU in Norman.. turned out to be false but I think these incidents are going to happen more and more frequently. And yet few take notice abd the ones which do are only after the guns . Why worry about taking matters in your own hands when someone else is responsible for it. Makes you wonder what Will happen when after the shtf and some form of punishment needs to be dealt out? There is some psychological theory that the larger the group of people witnessing an event the fewer Will act to help. Will everyone be standing around watching while a murderer slaughters someone in the town square? Those that stand for nothing Will fall fit anything comes to mind. Well off topic but none the less. |
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Post by cajunlady87 on Jan 22, 2014 15:27:51 GMT -7
I have to sit in the last row while in class. I don't think it is a phobia so much as I like to see what is going on. I like to sit in the back corner of the room so if someone comes in guns-a-blazen I am not in the immediate sight. I would imagine the same could be done for restuarants. I do the same thing when I can. Picked this habit up from my husband and it stuck. I'm not so kewl about sitting in a corner though. I like sitting a distance from but facing the front door and as near an exit door as I can get. |
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Post by cajunlady87 on Jan 22, 2014 16:27:37 GMT -7
When I rode Greyhound buses I always sat in the last seat if it was available to be nearest to the restroom. If anything out of the ordinary occurred I could get in there and lock the door. On public transit buses or trolley cars I sit close to the back doors in case I need to make a hasty get away.
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Post by Cwi555 on Jan 22, 2014 17:38:00 GMT -7
What other kinds of habits might be developed to offset a temporary lapse in awareness, in any of a number of scenarios or situations? Do you have any similar habits you've developed (and I'm not just talking about things that relate to your automobile)? In some respects, those questions will be tough to answer as some habits are on the subconscious level. |
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Post by Number5 on Jan 22, 2014 18:33:15 GMT -7
Awareness is a habit.
Develop it.
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Post by cowgirlup on Jan 22, 2014 19:32:48 GMT -7
I use the keypad to unlock my door and lock it as soon as my butts in the seat. I also take a glance at the back seat to make sure no one is there.
I don't always like to carry my purse on my shoulder while in the store. It hinders the shopping and bothers my shoulder. My keys are on a carabiner that I clip to my purse, then I clip it to the cart, Or I'll set my purse in the kids seat and wrap the strap around my wrist.
When I took martial arts they taught us to blade through a crowd with one arm bent up in front of your face. I still just automatically do that.
I'm also glad your friend is OK. Scary stuff.
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That's good.. If you are ever in a donut shop where there are 5 police cars I can assure you one of them is unhappy for having to sit with their back to the door. Gun hand, backs to the door, visibility to the room.. all play a part. This is a good thread and makes one think. I think no matter where you are, state park or rural county fair.. in this day and age it's always good to think like you're about to witness something violent. 
