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Post by angelhelp on Feb 8, 2014 20:47:20 GMT -7
Way back when I acquired my first car, I also acquired a "survival kit" that lived under the driver's seat. One day it dawned on me to check its contents (a "duh" moment, but back then I prepped more like my mom did -- no kits, but lots of stuff). One of those stoves was contained within, and it got me thinking. I'd had plenty of experience building cooking fires under fairly ideal conditions, but I'd never been camping. The notion of cooking on something that small, fueled the same way as one would maintain a campfire, had never occurred to me. I still have the stove, and it still lives in my car, along with plenty of other goodies.
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Post by Pennsylvania Mike on Feb 8, 2014 21:36:06 GMT -7
What are the benefits of a stove like this, other then it uses wood? Would it not be just as easy to start a small campfire, just big enough to cook what you have. It all depends on what you want your fire fore, how many people, weather, low impact, and I guess so other circumstances that I haven't thought about. The stove used very little firewood, it has a built in windshield sort of that you can build a fire in windy conditions, you can get this stove going on wet ground, it can be moved to a different locations in case of bad weather. In some state you are not aloud to have open fires, and this is the next best thing to it. Having a choice of choosing the stove to cook or build a campfire is a matter of preference, I myself love to make a campfire and enjoy it, as a matter of fact I make one at camp while in VA mostly every night; but wood is plentiful, or a lots of people that come to enjoy the campfire bring wood as a contribution. If you have a permanent camping location I would not choose this stove to cook on, my favorite is the on the picture made out of bricks, that stove burns something very hot or you can cut down on the wood to simmer, it accommodates any size pot, from caldron to a metal mug, to my little has grill which you can grill or use as a smoker all using a minimal amount of firewood.
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Post by thywar on Feb 9, 2014 8:38:24 GMT -7
In this day most public places discourage campfires/rings. If you just build a campfire you have to find something to support your cooking pot. Or just set your can of beans in the fire. A handy transportable stove comes in handy. Also leaves less damage to the earth/ground/area. Something you discuss frequently.
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Post by Number5 on Feb 9, 2014 12:23:09 GMT -7
I bought one of these a year or so ago. Used it a couple of times. Another drawback is waiting for it to cool so you can fold it up and get it back in the bag. ...and trying to remember exactly how to fold the dang thing. ...and getting soot all over your hands from folding it.
Other than that, it's an OK lil' stove
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Post by Pennsylvania Mike on Feb 9, 2014 13:03:41 GMT -7
I bought one of these a year or so ago. Used it a couple of times. Another drawback is waiting for it to cool so you can fold it up and get it back in the bag. ...and trying to remember exactly how to fold the dang thing. ...and getting soot all over your hands from folding it. Other than that, it's an OK lil' stove Always a trade off, a clean burning stove is usually heavy and you have to carry fuel, and in a survival situation you may run out of fuel, then what? Also a clean burning stove may breakdown and malfunction, now you are carrying a non working stove, containers full of fuel and you are still back to #1 trying to build a wood fire to cook. Same thing with wood stove if you have bad weather and didn't bother to collect any sticks before it rained, that's why I mentioned I carried a homemade alcohol stove besides the wood strove, no moving parts, it weights the same as an empty soda or beer can and it does not have any moving parts to brake, the fuel you carry is minimal because is not your primary stove just to be used during bad weather or lazy periods as a convenience not gather wood sticks.
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Post by offtrail on Feb 9, 2014 21:59:46 GMT -7
In this day most public places discourage campfires/rings. If you just build a campfire you have to find something to support your cooking pot. Or just set your can of beans in the fire. A handy transportable stove comes in handy. Also leaves less damage to the earth/ground/area. Something you discuss frequently. To me fire is not damaging in fact it helps to start new growth. I know in a lot of state parks around here you can have fire but only in the camping area where the fire pits are. Ohio is a little different from other states we don't have miles of forest to burn so open fires are allowed in some of the national forest anyplace you like. I could not stand living in a state that didn't allow open campfires but do understand why they are necessary. I think it's a neat little stove but for around here it would just be extra weight.
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Post by offtrail on Feb 9, 2014 22:12:37 GMT -7
What are the benefits of a stove like this, other then it uses wood? Would it not be just as easy to start a small campfire, just big enough to cook what you have. It all depends on what you want your fire fore, how many people, weather, low impact, and I guess so other circumstances that I haven't thought about. The stove used very little firewood, it has a built in windshield sort of that you can build a fire in windy conditions, you can get this stove going on wet ground, it can be moved to a different locations in case of bad weather. In some state you are not aloud to have open fires, and this is the next best thing to it. Having a choice of choosing the stove to cook or build a campfire is a matter of preference, I myself love to make a campfire and enjoy it, as a matter of fact I make one at camp while in VA mostly every night; but wood is plentiful, or a lots of people that come to enjoy the campfire bring wood as a contribution. If you have a permanent camping location I would not choose this stove to cook on, my favorite is the on the picture made out of bricks, that stove burns something very hot or you can cut down on the wood to simmer, it accommodates any size pot, from caldron to a metal mug, to my little has grill which you can grill or use as a smoker all using a minimal amount of firewood. All very good points mike, most of my open fires are kept small so I don't use a lot of wood.I guess my problem is the extra weight and space it would take up in my pack. If I lived in a state that doesn't allow open campfires you can bet I would have many of these stoves...for sure.
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Post by Redneckidokie on Feb 10, 2014 2:41:22 GMT -7
I'm kinda with OT on this one. Carry'in the cinder blocks, fire bricks and steel grates to make it work? Adds a hundred pounds to the pack...? LOL Just kidding. What are the benefits of a stove like this, other then it uses wood? Would it not be just as easy to start a small campfire, just big enough to cook what you have. The benefits for me are the ease of it all. Built plenty of "campfires" but if one is in an area that one can't come up with supporting structure, to hold ones cooking utensils and quickly using small pieces of wood to make coffee, soup, water safe, seems to have plenty of benefits for me. I've had a lot of interest in these types of stoves. This one seems to hold my attention. Course to each his own... Jimmy
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Post by offtrail on Feb 10, 2014 8:58:48 GMT -7
I do carry a wire grill with a retractable handle that serves as my support. It will hold more then enough cooking pots.
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Post by woodyz on Feb 10, 2014 16:06:52 GMT -7
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Post by thywar on Feb 10, 2014 17:37:21 GMT -7
Let's not lose sight that this a gear review and sounds like its a good piece of equipment. Use it or not
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Post by lanyislost on Feb 10, 2014 18:39:20 GMT -7
I just ordered mine, they are out of stock until February 26th.
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Post by Number5 on Feb 10, 2014 20:04:43 GMT -7
All in all, its not a bad stove. I'm happy with mine.
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Post by woodyz on Feb 10, 2014 20:50:01 GMT -7
Alright heres my last word on this. I've bought several, I might use one at a small base camp somewhere, but the number one use for them was to put them into my Daughters kits. Because even they can feed little sticks into the right place and get a fire they can boil water or cook on. No tree limbs to chop or fancy wood stacking required. But I bet if they ever do open it up and use it they will never get it folded up again. But for that kind of application, it is a good tool. And before I hear about it, YES they have other means along the same lines, so they have several choices. Oh! and I get their kits out every time I go to KY and go through every item in them. One eats ice and sighs at me the whole time the other rolls her eyes into the back of her head, but they listen til I am done talking.
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Post by Number5 on Feb 11, 2014 3:37:52 GMT -7
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