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Post by missasip on Apr 7, 2014 19:37:43 GMT -7
So it wouldn't take away from the "What do you need to work on" Thread... My tool use and tool ownership has always been a subject I love... But recently I got to thinking about what, in a grid down era, I would do for building tools. Well in my years working in line crews, troubleshooting, local operations etc...particularly line building in the old days. When I first started, besides your hooks and belt, you were issued: A pair of 9" Klein Lineman pliers. A medium size pair of Channel Lock pliers. A large Stanly screwdriver. A 14" Proto adjustable wrench. A 24oz Proto ball peen hammer. An a Stanley brace and bit set. A set of blocks and catch offs. A 3/4" 110' hand line with a block. A bit later we managed to get a lineman's wrench. ( BIG DEAL ) These were one's personal tools. As a crew, whether a 3 man crew or a complete line crew, we depended on two sets of 8' diggers, shovels and at least 2 tamps. With these few basic tools we could build a 3ph line wherever and as far as an engineer would want. Yes it was VERY hard work. Thank goodness for bucket trucks, derrick trucks and hydraulic tools now-a-days.... But I guess, what my point is, what can be done with just a few basic tools and some knowledge. I could take those few basic tools, along with a few more and build just about anything. That will be an important skill in a grid down world.. So, do you have some basic skills, with basic tools that would help you in that sort of world? And if you don't do you have a plan? What say you? Jimmy
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Post by thywar on Apr 7, 2014 20:25:37 GMT -7
I've tried to think of just those kind of tools. I've purchased bit and brace and a myriad of other hand tools. I have several older wood planes I bought when my scoutmaster died. I swing by and pick up a box of nails, screws and bolts when I'm in lowes. I try to think of everyday things that I take for granted but to me would be hard to manufacture in a SHTF situation. I need about six rolls of barb wire just cause. (And a couple of different size ball peen hammers along with a leather working hammer) Good thread
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Post by thywar on Apr 7, 2014 20:28:04 GMT -7
Didn't know what a linemans wrench was so I looked it up. ;-)
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Post by missasip on Apr 7, 2014 20:40:48 GMT -7
Didn't know what a linemans wrench was so I looked it up. ;-) It's just a big ratcheting wrench to fit the square nuts and bolts...but it's heaven... Jimmy
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Post by cajunlady87 on Apr 8, 2014 16:53:07 GMT -7
I came so close to getting my hands on a grinding stone wheel, always thought those would be goldmines to have. Bought several handsaws, rat tail saws, log splitter tool, lots of tarps, whole role of 4mil. visqueen, nails of all sizes, lots of hammers, screwdrivers, ratchet sets, wrench sets, tin snips, bolt cutters, the list goes on.
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Post by lanyislost on Apr 8, 2014 17:19:26 GMT -7
We have all the usual hammers, mauls, ball peens, monkey wrenches,so many mechanics tools I can't begin to count, saws of every size and use, lots of tarps,nails, screws, sheet metal screws, spare sheet metal, wire of all kinds from electrical to galvanized, tin snips, just a menagerie of a bunch of stuff saved throught the years, "just in case."
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Post by marc on Apr 8, 2014 19:44:00 GMT -7
I had nothing but old school hand tools growing up, and I worked and saved up for years and gradually got modern power versions. Then I started to reverse that path........
Growing up on a ranch without a lot of money, is a great teacher of how to cobble together a way to make something happen. MacGyver trumps Bob Villa and Rambo any day.
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Post by garret on Apr 9, 2014 2:01:42 GMT -7
i have always enjoyed using human powered hand tool, yes i have a some litium ion powered equipment now but i still have my hand tools, i brought my main mechanics workshop tools when i came over to aus but i have spent the last 12 years at garage sales and such like buying every hand tool i can find, a lot of it needs new handles but that is fine, the local hardware/iron mongers sells that stuff (and is a treasure trove in itself)
the guy who runs it is nearly 90 and started in the shop when he was 12 working for his dad, i recon there is still some stock from before he was born buried in the back, i am one of the priveleged few who is alowed to rummage in the back shop area for stuff, it is like i had died and gone to hardware heaven
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