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Post by missasip on Jun 9, 2012 21:32:56 GMT -7
After whining and crying to get this forum, figured I better get it started.
I think we can include any energy source that ould let one live off grid. Homemade fuels, woodsmoke..
I think ifwe every had an EMP event, one may wish they had some ideas from a forum like this.
I look for to lots of small scale ideas.
TJ, I look for you to help us with your expertise.
Jimmy
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Post by swamprat1 on Jun 9, 2012 22:55:55 GMT -7
Great idea Jimmy. I've been thinking of some creative ways myself. Although, my house was built in 1890 and all the fire places were designed for coal they are now closed off and have been converted to natural gas. When I can afford it I want to get the chimneys checked out and have them fixed up so I can burn wood if I have to. We have also talked of having an wood stove or an outdoor kitchen. I also own a 2 story building that sits 20 ft away from the house. I have been thinking of installing some sort of wind generator on the roof. Hopefully TJ will chime in. He had once posted some good info elsewhere, but between forum death and pc changes I no longer have the info.
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Post by geron on Jun 10, 2012 2:38:50 GMT -7
Small Idea: BoGo lights Solar powered flashlight. More expensive than solar powered "patio lights" but give out way more light also. I pick one up at HD when I've an extra 20 bill. DW likes'em too  . I have a few on hand for . . . whatever.  |
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Post by Dennis on Jun 10, 2012 5:35:57 GMT -7
Off Grid WOW one of my favorite subjects. Thanks
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Post by thywar on Jun 10, 2012 6:41:11 GMT -7
This is going to be an interesting and fun thread. I think I'll learn a lot.. and I particularly like the 'small idea' concept cause financially I wouldn't be able to solar my whole house.
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Post by geron on Jun 10, 2012 7:01:16 GMT -7
Pelton Wheel I've given serious consideration to installing a Pelton Wheel to create a MicroHydro battery charging system. Numerous other projects have put it on the back burner. I first must determine if I have adequate drop/head for a system. I'm thinking I do. Here's a good explanation: www.rpc.com.au/pdf/HYD-200-Manual.pdf |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2012 10:22:12 GMT -7
I'm still waiting for help and trying to figure out how to run my deepwell on solar power so I don't have to worry about my water supply should the power go out. I cna handle everything else...just need to do something about the deepwell...and I mean DEEP...pump sets about 350' deep, water level is at 200' and the bottom is at 500'...Thats a LOOOONG way to have to pull a skinny pail up to water livestock and have what I need around the house!! Lots of buckets, lots of rope...I don't think I would have enough time to pull up what I would need in a day...much less EVERY day...and still get all my work done!!
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Post by missasip on Jun 11, 2012 13:37:35 GMT -7
I'm still waiting for help and trying to figure out how to run my deepwell on solar power so I don't have to worry about my water supply should the power go out. I cna handle everything else...just need to do something about the deepwell...and I mean DEEP...pump sets about 350' deep, water level is at 200' and the bottom is at 500'...Thats a LOOOONG way to have to pull a skinny pail up to water livestock and have what I need around the house!! Lots of buckets, lots of rope...I don't think I would have enough time to pull up what I would need in a day...much less EVERY day...and still get all my work done!! So, what your saying is, you are ready to be solar powered on your deep well ALL the time. Correct? Your not looking for solar as a back up to what you have now, as that is two different things and two different ways to cover it. Understand that most sloar wells pump when the sun is shining. They don't cut off and on, like a normal powered pump does. Plus generally, but maybe not always, you will need an elevated tank to pump into and flow out of. Hopefully TJ or Power Gaint will kick in here. You can have an on-demand solar powered pump, but it would have stand alone batteries, panels and charge controls, along with inverters to run your regular well. The pure solar setup, pumps all day long, as long as the sun is shining and providing enough energy. It generally consist of a special pump and a panel. Just something to chew on for a bit. Jimmy |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2012 1:04:48 GMT -7
I'm still waiting for help and trying to figure out how to run my deepwell on solar power so I don't have to worry about my water supply should the power go out. I cna handle everything else...just need to do something about the deepwell...and I mean DEEP...pump sets about 350' deep, water level is at 200' and the bottom is at 500'...Thats a LOOOONG way to have to pull a skinny pail up to water livestock and have what I need around the house!! Lots of buckets, lots of rope...I don't think I would have enough time to pull up what I would need in a day...much less EVERY day...and still get all my work done!! So, what your saying is, you are ready to be solar powered on your deep well ALL the time. Correct? Your not looking for solar as a back up to what you have now, as that is two different things and two different ways to cover it. Understand that most sloar wells pump when the sun is shining. They don't cut off and on, like a normal powered pump does. Plus generally, but maybe not always, you will need an elevated tank to pump into and flow out of. Hopefully TJ or Power Gaint will kick in here. You can have an on-demand solar powered pump, but it would have stand alone batteries, panels and charge controls, along with inverters to run your regular well. The pure solar setup, pumps all day long, as long as the sun is shining and providing enough energy. It generally consist of a special pump and a panel. Just something to chew on for a bit. Jimmy Whatever it takes to take my deepwell off grid 100%. Once that is accomplished and it is on its own, I will work on other aspects of getting my farm completely independant as I think I need it done...but I need to know exactly what I need and how to go about doing it. |
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Post by woodyz on Jun 29, 2012 21:24:04 GMT -7
Pelton Wheel I've given serious consideration to installing a Pelton Wheel to create a MicroHydro battery charging system. Numerous other projects have put it on the back burner. I first must determine if I have adequate drop/head for a system. I'm thinking I do. Here's a good explanation: www.rpc.com.au/pdf/HYD-200-Manual.pdfOddly enough I was looking at water powered mills/wells last night. I went to the pdf and downloaded it and read through it so I have this question. I am pumping water from my well into a storage tank, the water runs from the well by way of a pipe under the house to the tank. Why could I not put this power wheel in that pipe line so that the water pumped into the tank runs over the wheel and charges the batteries? I have to pump the water anyway, why can't I do both at the same time? Geron, I can't see or enlarge the image you have, can you send it larger or direct me to it, the image is a little different then the system in the pdf. |
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Post by woodyz on Jun 29, 2012 21:26:05 GMT -7
Thanks geron I figured out how to enlarge it.
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Post by woodyz on Jun 29, 2012 21:29:21 GMT -7
While I am asking;
Does any one know why and/or how you could make one of those wind speed indicators made from the little spinning plastic cups charge a battery just like a solar charger does?
If it is going to spin anyway why couldn't we store the spin energy.
Just wondering, some things click in my head and some don't.
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Post by woodyz on Jun 29, 2012 21:33:24 GMT -7
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Post by offtrail on Jun 29, 2012 21:55:49 GMT -7
I know very little about this stuff,but hope to learn a little...thanks ahead of time  |
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Post by woodyz on Jun 29, 2012 23:35:40 GMT -7
I researched this concept some more and water just running over this may not work, they are showing reducing the input pipe size to create pressure on the fins or buckets of the wheel.
I worry that would create back pressure on my well and effect my pump. It may be I would need to have an elevated holding tank and run the water down to the wheel by gravity.
I am hoping people who know more about this will jump in and tell me if it will work or not.
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. I have a few on hand for . . . whatever. 
