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Post by Cwi555 on Jun 20, 2012 10:47:55 GMT -7
At the suggestion of some members, this thread is about situational awareness related to 'gut feelings'. Ever felt the hair on the back of your neck rise and wonder why? How about a gut feeling something is terribly wrong? How about noticing in a room, no one is talking, or the forest going quiet?
Lets hear your story.
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Post by offtrail on Jun 20, 2012 11:07:41 GMT -7
In the woods this is called being aware, of what is going on around you. Birds stop singing and you start hearing warning calls of chipmunks,squirrels, birds. I'm not sure if I believe in a sixth sense. What I do believe in is the Brain's ability to subconsciously pick up clues as to what is going on around us. And our ability to pay attention to what are brain is trying to tell us. As for family I do believe in a sixth sense as to something terrible happening to a family member.
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Post by lonewufcry on Jun 20, 2012 11:08:08 GMT -7
Well I give it a try
I was on a backpacking trip out in the deep mountains with a small group. We were dropped of at the trail head and off we went. something was bugging me but I could not figure it out. it was a nice spring day not to hot or cold minor clouds in the sky slight 1-2 mph breeze. as we traversed the trail upwards I felt something was off but i kept pushing on. You see I like to be the tail end of a hike so I can see and hear whats going on. We got to a small opening on the trail and decided to stop for lunch. I kept looking over my shoulder and thinking we were being watched but could not see anything. As we were eating I noticed movement out of the corner of my eye. At first i thought another hiker or something. I told everyone something wrong and then it happened the entire are got deathly quiet no chirping birds no wind not a sound. the hair on my neck stood straight up I knew something was about to happen. It did , a Cougar jumped out from the brush. We all jumped back and noticed it was a smaller one. I told the guys to stand as tall as they can don't run and give it room. Then what happened next was sort of funny. see we were eating summer sausage and it took what was left snorted at us and took off. I figured that it had been following us all morning but couldn't see it just had that funny feeling. Thank the good lord it ended like it did.
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Post by geron on Jun 20, 2012 13:18:05 GMT -7
I evidently don't have a "sixth sense." The other five aren't so good either 'specially the ears . Four eyes with Tri-focal lenses. . I rarely have a "premonition" or warning feeling about future events. On the rare occasion that I have experienced such a "feeling" I was danged fool enough to just go ahead, ignore the feeling just to find out what I might have missed Premonition: Don't take that route, road, turn, whatever. I'd take it anyway just to find out what event I would have missed. Prolly get me some day. Read the third line in my signature
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Post by dtucker on Jun 20, 2012 14:20:19 GMT -7
It has saved my life more than once. None of my friends or family argue with me when I suddenly change course, alter a plan or stop abruptly. They've all seen it too many times to question how or why - it just is. I can't explain it beyond sudden and highly intense feelings to do or not do something - never more specific than that. An example is driving down the road relaxed on a clear sunny day. Then I suddenly knew that I HAD to get off the road RIGHT NOW! I pulled over and barely got stopped when a semi truck & trailer crossed over the center median up ahead and took out the pack of cars I was with. Marc I have had the same thing happen, many times. Years ago, I didn't follow my gut inctinct on some pretty important feelings and ideas and it always led to disaster. I learned not to do that anymore. I have always had a "sixth"sense. It seems to run pretty strong in my family, my mom was the same way. I can walk in a house and tell if something bad happened there or is about to. My friends don't understand it but they don't question it anymore. The only one who understands it is my step mom and she tells me it is just part of my spirit and she is the only one that doesn't think I'm crazy when it comes to that.
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Post by angelhelp on Jun 20, 2012 17:00:21 GMT -7
I have it, among other abilities that are often considered weird. So does Ceorlmann, which is how he ended up in a car accident 2 years ago. He ignored what we call "that little voice". Every time I ignored it, bad stuff ensued. He learned more quickly than I did. Unfortunately there is now a lawsuit pending concerning the accident, despite the insurance company's handling of the problem initially. When it happened, I had a funky feeling at the time.
I knew, 2 weeks ahead of time, the exact day my Dad would die. I was the only one in the family who knew.
When I went off to college, I arranged a signal with my Mom that I'd know she was ok and she'd know I was "in" for the night. 2300 was the agreed-on time, with a 5-minute cushion either way to allow for clock error. I'd call home and let the phone ring twice, then hang up. She'd answer, the exact same way, within 5 minutes. If she didn't get a call, she'd dial the phone I shared with 3 other roommates. If I didn't get a call back, I'd let the phone ring the usual 12 that it might take for her to be able to get to the phone. One night she didn't answer my 2 rings, so I called. As I dialed, I "knew" she'd fallen. When she said, "Hello", I immediately asked, "So what made you fall, Ma?" She asked me how I knew.
Being open to those impressions, little voices, and a sensing of certain things in other people was something I had to learn to curtail for a period of time. Allowing the impressions/voices/sensings through isn't always easy anymore, nor is trusting that the "info is good". I still act on it as if it's 100% accurate, but I don't always get to know why I had to accommodate it.
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Post by woodyz on Jun 20, 2012 18:55:35 GMT -7
I knew we had "talked" some on this before and I wanted to capture some of it so we can pound it out and make it work more better.
Its a lot long and I am sorry but I think most here can keep the hi lights in mind as the skim the rest.
cwi555 started it I copied it to word just to save it because if I read anything cwi555 writes about ten times I get more from it each time.B
ut I think it references who commented up until I did and if I didn't get it right I am sorry I did not expect to be needing to re post what had been said already.
Critical Thinking. A survival skill. Discussion in 'Survival Skills' started by cwi555, Monday at 10:01 PM. 1. cwi555Well-Known Member One of the most important tools to survival, and to me it is 'the' most important tool is your mind.
Like any other tool, you must train with it, take care of it, and properly utilize it to survive. Not just SHTF, but life in general.
Critical thinking aka thinking outside the box, at it's most basic is the questioning of assumptions. When you wake up in the morning, you assume your coffee pot will work, your car will start, and that the world will be as it was when you closed your eyes. For that matter, it is an assumption that you will wake at all when you go to sleep.
Those assumptions are in varying levels of probabilities. Probabilities are best thought of in light of the law of large numbers.
In statistics, it has the following definition: The rule or theorem that the average of a large number of independent measurements of a random quantity tends toward the theoretical average of that quantity. Also called Bernoulli's law.
In mathematics, it has this definition: the fundamental statistical result that the average of a sequence of n identically distributed independent random variables tends to their common mean as n tends to infinity, whence the frequency of the occurrence of an event in n independent repetitions of an experiment tends to its probability.
What that means is, the base line of events will naturally seek out it's n average. By doing so, something I like to call event alpha must occur at some point in time before it reaches infinity. The longer the time line goes without the alpha event, the more probable that event becomes until it satisfies Bernoulli's law
So what is Bernoulli's law? In relation to statistics it is the following: law stating that a large number of items taken at random from a population will (on the average) have the population statistics.
Boiling the jargon down to it's simplest form, it means if it can happen, it will at some point in time.
We go through our lives prioritizing them in terms of probabilities. What's the chances of a thermonuclear war today? How about an asteroid impact? How about slipping in the bathtub and breaking your neck?
All things that come in go in our minds without ever giving it any conscious thought. Our subconscious tends to be a busy little beaver at all times. Thousands to millions of probabilities run through them a week routinely.
Consider the simple act of driving to work. How many probabilities do you calculate from the moment you wake until you clock in or arrive at your desk? If your trip is more than 10 minutes, it will probably equate easily to a thousand or more different potential endings to all events of every second of the trip. Will they stop, will they go, will the tires blow, can I make this turn, is the turn clear, will the engine die on the off ramp, will the brakes fail, will the cop catch me speeding, will this will that.. All probabilities built upon assumptions.
At some point in your life, they won't stop, they won't go, the tire will blow, you won't make the turn, the turn will not in fact have been clear, the engine will die, the brakes will fail, you will get caught speeding.. so on and so forth.
So tell me why S*** won't hit the fan again?
Every day, in every way, we all are constantly assessing probabilities whether we realize it or not.
For those things we consider a higher probability, we address them with mitigating factors by adding positive variables that ripple the time line of probabilities in our favor.
We have our breaks inspected, we buy new tires, we drive the speed limit, and so on. These mitigating factors reduce N below the event horizon of an Alpha event.
The base problem with that is, there are somethings we are effectively powerless to mitigate in our favor. For those things we prepare to mitigate the ensuing circumstances that fall out of that alpha event.
For a hurricane, we put back water, food, emergency escape routes, emergency power. etc. Our mind has assessed that to be the critical game changers for survival.
So why do people including those people who call themselves survivalist/preppers insist on continued operation from assumptions?
Do you assume the lady walking the dog near the ATM is not going to hold you at gun point because she's a lady walking a dog?
Do you assume the guy at the bus stop is waiting on the bus, or is he waiting on his next victim?
Think about it.
Military training will drill into a recruits head not to look at the flare, but keep their eyes down when their natural instinct is to stare at the light like a moth to flame.
You have trained yourself (hopefully anyway) not to stare into headlights that suddenly appear from a driveway.
So why do you not train your subconscious in other ways? The simple answer is that it never occurs to you. Your mind assumes it knows it's surroundings and the most probable events in those surroundings.
Critical thinking, thinking outside the box, questioning assumptions, and the inherent recognition of what is an assumption. That is critical thinking for survival.
cwi555, Monday at 10:01 PM #1 Mud & Honor, Pennsylvania Mike, Cajunlady and 6 others like this. 2. thywarWell-Known Member Once again you probe things that make me think.... just reading your post I was processing all kinds of things that I DO make assumptions about daily.. great post for making us think and rethink why what and where and how we do what we do.. each minute.. every day. thywar, Monday at 10:19 PM #2 Cajunlady, Missasip and cwi555 like this. 3. CarneyCWell-Known Member 4 months ago I "assumed" I was going to drive about 4mls to my friends house and check out his new Gibson guitar. Now I am learning to walk again with a titanium femur because my breaks locked up going down a long wet hill and missed the bridge, jumping the creek and nose dove into bank. I was suddenly in a "real life" situation, a Survival situation that by GODs grace I made it out alive. CWI, I always tell everyone to assume nothing, but its so easy to do. And just when you get comfortable in assuming whatever it may be,Murphy steps in. CarneyC, Yesterday at 1:00 AM #3 thywar, Cajunlady, Missasip and 1 other person like this. 4. MissasipWell-Known Member Good thread CWI. I agree wholeheartly.
Dec '09 was the end of a great year for me. Had the world by the tail. Feb '10, it all changed in a blink... Never saw it coming, BUT.....
I told that Doc I wasn't ready to push up dasiys just yet and lets get going... So far so good and no assumptions of no kind for sure...
Jimmy Missasip, Yesterday at 7:43 AM #4 cwi555 and Cajunlady like this. 5. CajunladyWell-Known Member Great thread cwi! I believe one of the biggest assumations we're all guilty of is the fact that we along with our spouses will grow old together to a ripe old age. Together we will raise our families, pay off the mortgage, enjoy retirement together and live the easy life until...... Not! Cajunlady, Yesterday at 8:17 AM #5 Missasip, cowgirlup and cwi555 like this. 6. grafWell-Known Member My mindset has been hope for the best prepare for the worst, count on no one but myself, trust no one but family and then only selected few, expect nothing and you won't be disapointed. Uncondtional love only comes from pets. Bad things happen to good people. Assume your entitled to nothing and accept everyday as a gift. May seem harsh but avoids many disapointments. graf, Yesterday at 9:54 AM #6 Missasip likes this. 7. CajunladyWell-Known Member Questioning assumptions is relevant critical thinking for survival. This leads me to the question, "what would you do if?". However, confronted with a given situation it may not always lead us to the easy answers we have concluded will enable us to cope with it.
For instance, preparing for hurricanes. In my area it has been ingrained in our brains since we're able to understand the why's and how's of doing so, and believing we have all our bases covered for extended periods of loss electrical power and even broken water mains preventing us from having running water in our homes. That's the easy assumation to overcome.
Enter the scenarios of destructive wind damage to our homes plus massive flooding and where does our prepping come in handy. If all our preps are in our homes buried under mounds of a collapsed home or water flooded over rooftops, our preps do us no good to survive the aftermath.
This is where critical thinking comes into play for me. I don't "put all my eggs in one basket" and I do have backup plans should this occur to enable me to overcome these scenarios. Sometimes learning through experience is the best teacher if it isn't taken for granted and you act upon it.
That's an easy example of critical thinking. But, as in Carney's situation when his brakes locked, he had no choice in his situation and had to go with it in hopes of coming out of it alive. His dillema didn't lead him to easy answers to overcome the situation. I'm sure lots of critical thinking flashed through his mind once his vehicle started sliding and while his vehicle was airborn but it was a helpless situation. Maybe after the initial impact if he wasn't left unconscious he did use critical thinking to sustain himself until help arrived. I do know the Preacher Man was doing some praying and thankfully his prayers were answered.
I guess the assumation here is once you leave your home and get on the road in your vehicle that you'll be returning unscathed, not so. Cajunlady, Yesterday at 10:37 AM #7 Missasip and cwi555 like this. 8. CarneyCWell-Known Member False Expectations are created by assuming an event will or will not happen. By assuming a good event will occur if you do whats right you have set yourself up. If the result that we assumed to occur doesn't take place we experience what we perceive as failure which can lead to depression which can lead to hopelessness. A correct perception has to be developed. The glass is both half full and half empty. You are gonna help someone and they are gonna hurt you in return. That sun and the rain is gonna fall on the just and the unjust. A battery has to have a Negative post as well as a Positive post or there is no power. I am learning not to assume. I am learning really how powerless I really am to Life and how it affects me and my love ones. I try to give JESUS my life and my love ones, put it in HIS hands and then trust that whatever happens good or bad it doesn't changeHIS love for me CarneyC, Yesterday at 11:00 AM #8 Missasip, Cajunlady and cwi555 like this. 9. cwi555Well-Known Member Perception's are critical. If we perceive that the situation is hopeless, then it will be so. like digging out from under an avalanche and stopping 6" short of breaking free because we perceived hopelessness. cwi555, Yesterday at 12:06 PM #9 Missasip, cowgirlup, CarneyC and 2 others like this. 10. CajunladyWell-Known Member cwi555 said: ↑ Perception's are critical. If we perceive that the situation is hopeless, then it will be so. like digging out from under an avalanche and stopping 6" short of breaking free because we perceived hopelessness. The t.v. program "I Shouldn't Be Alive" is a classic example of what you say. If the survivors who were faced with dire circustances had thrown the towel in the ring instead of using critical thinking and keeping hopes of rescue alive, they wouldn't have survived to tell their story. Cajunlady, Yesterday at 12:32 PM #10 Missasip, cwi555 and CarneyC like this. 11. GeronWell-Known Member Nov 5, 2005 and a surprise health problem with surgery. Doc says that he can only "guarantee" the procedure for 5-7 years then . . . . whatever. Coming up on 7 years and each day is an absolute gift yet never knowing what it will bring. Kinda keeps you tuned in and wide open trying to make the best of each moment and living for the next.
The other side of the coin, despair, depression, rocking chair, get fat and die before you've finished living. Geron, Yesterday at 2:08 PM #11 Missasip, thywar, Cajunlady and 1 other person like this. 12. 720flyMember graf said: ↑ My mindset has been hope for the best prepare for the worst, count on no one but myself, trust no one but family and then only selected few, expect nothing and you won't be disapointed. Uncondtional love only comes from pets. Bad things happen to good people. Assume your entitled to nothing and accept everyday as a gift. May seem harsh but avoids many disapointments. ding ding x2 well spoken' 720fly, Yesterday at 2:15 PM #12 13. heysmithyWell-Known Member Good thread, CWI. The Law of Large Numbers is something I think about to a degree in constant. It can be applied to so many things!
I always explain it as a coin toss, with a perfectly weighted coin (exact 50% odds). If you toss the coin 5 times, you might get heads 4 times and tails only once. But if you toss the coin 5000 times, you will get very close to 2500 times on each side. The odds of getting 4000 heads and 1000 tails becomes overwhelmingly improbable, and those odds just become more improbable as the numbers get larger.
This is how casinos are able to make money consistently, even if they sometimes lose. Without taking into account overhead, then all they have to do is win 51% of the time, and play a lot of games with a lot of money, and they will always come out ahead.
It's why if you are going to invest money, it's important to diversify. If you put all your eggs in one basket, you might make lots of money or you might lose it all. But if you make lots of investments that are likely to pay off, then you will always lose some money but you will always make more than you lose. The more diverse, the greater control you can have over your odds of success.
The Law of Large Numbers is why it's okay to make bad decisions sometimes. As long as you are able to make lots of equally weighty decisions, and give them each enough consideration to ensure that the MAJORITY of them are good, you will always do well in the long run.
The Law of Large Numbers is why a true democracy (if such a thing were possible or practical) would be more stable than a dictatorship. A dictatorship has 50% odds of wild success or complete failure, and as soon as the dictator is gone, that coin is flipped again. Whereas a huge amount of people, if they could think for themselves and were immune to outside influences (again, such a thing is not possible), would always move forward in a positive direction long term.
I could go on and on all day. The Law of Large Numbers is so important, and can be applied to some degree to almost everything in life. heysmithy, Yesterday at 5:10 PM #13 Missasip and cwi555 like this. 14. USCGME2Active Member Critical thinking, abstract reasoning, deduction, induction, fluid thinking, problem solving, adaptabillity, etc. Call it what you will, this is what separates survivors from victims IMO. Crystaline or "rigid" thinkers do not fare well in real world, Murphy done showed up type situations. They tend to live in a world of "supposed to be's" and "should be's". A lot of those people lose all sense of orientation and mentally lock up in any given situation that deviates at all from "the plan" (those assumptions CWI talked about - ie) "THE ELECTRICITY WENT OUT IN LAST NIGHT'S STORM! OH NO, NOW WHAT DO I DO?" and wallow around in victimhood. Alot of people I know would be utterly frozen if just their Iphones went blank and did not come back on. The people that frequent this forum are the exact opposite, "NO WORRIES I CAN MAKE THIS WORK SOMEHOW DO IT MYSELF" types. I personally have always been the type to figure out what to do rather than having to know what to do. This has not always been to my benifit when working for people who are way more concerned about policies, procedures, and plans than outcomes . I am at my best when I am given a task, a deadline, and left alone to get 'er done without the burden of micro management. That is not to say a plan is a bad thing. I always got a plan. Its just my plans are not rigid and subject to change without prejudice.
Being able to assess any given situation and maximize your resources on hand and reach a goal is the quintisential hallmark quality of survivorship. I am no McGyver for crying out loud so to me, the idea of prepping is in support of problem solving. The more/better resources I have, the easier the problem solving is. Could I survive a couple days with just my knife and 4 feet of rope? Maybe, but Id rather have my truck and BOB. Id be a lot less hungry and cold that way.
I never thought of SHTF in statistical terms like CWI the others - interesting. ………………………………….
First I want to say it’s a good post with good response by all. Cwi555 seems to have an ability to provide just enough fact to create the what if factor in people and I think that is a great gift. My attempts create more of an agree or disagree reaction when it wasn’t what I was intending to do.
Situational awareness, or knowing where you are or the environment you are in, then making minute assessments of your surroundings and staying aware of the priority of dealing with the possibility of a situation within that environment. If I live in Colorado I am not going to prepare for a hurricane or spend any of my resources looking out for one. You take an overall picture and assign priorities based on probabilities of your assumptions or understanding of the situation. Then you keep making the picture smaller and the assumptions less until you reach what is at a given moment and you react to that based on training or experience. Some people will do that a thousand times a minute, others a hundred times.
I would agree statistical would be a correct word as it goes with probability or likelihood, that type of thing. I know for a fact most people seem to walk around blind. Even people I am trying to train, who I know have improved at looking instead of seeing, still frustrate me in the amount of things that they miss seeing or the number of times their assessment is wrong. I don’t car shop while I am driving. What I mean is I limit the output or resources I use based on where I am and what I am doing.
I do understand that my previous training has a lot to do with how I process what is around me, however I believe some people were just born to take the time to notice what is happening in greater detail. I don’t mean to sound like I am bragging but I just don’t believe all of it is training. I think some people just have an ability to feel and see at the same time. Training refines it, sharpens it, and makes one more aware of the sense or existence of it. And maybe it can be trained into someone, although I don’t believe it can be. I believe someone can be trained to recognize something for what it is. But I have been around too many people who had the same training when put into the same situations either totally miss things or by the time they recognize it, it is too late to control it. They can only react to it. I don’t mean I can control a situation as much as the ability for me to pick a path of reaction has a better probability of being more within my control, the sooner I am aware I need to react. It is my opinion that if I have to react to something I am behind the ball not in front of it. Yes I am in total agreement some things will happen and those things will have to be dealt with after the fact, not before. Things like natural disasters, things you prepare for but your preparation is to allow you to continue to function after the situation occurs and not to eliminate its occurrence.
Have you ever watched where they filmed zoo animals and how they reacted before an earthquake? Animals who left enclosures and moved into the open when nothing was registering as wrong yet? Have you heard of dogs howling before a tornado. I think people had/have those skills but they have been repressed by civilization.
It has been more than 30 years since I was assigned to guard the President of the United States, but I can’t go into a room and not stop and make a quick assessment of the possible danger the room could have, what I would do about it and where any exits are. I don’t do it consciously but I can’t not do it either. I hate a crowd, because I still feel like I need to “keep track” of every individuals movements and I can’t. I either have to shrink my area of control/responsibility, or leave the crowd. I wake up before an alarm goes off or before someone touches me. Why? I sense there is something going on near me and am then able to find it, sometimes 50 yards or further from me.
I don’t drive in my space, I drive in the space of at least three cars behind and three cars ahead of me, more depending on the speed of traffic. Many times my wife has indicated I reacted to a wreck or road hazard before it was there. I don’t think so, I think it was there but she didn’t know it as soon as I did. Why? I can tell you what color shoes someone in line at Mcdonalds had on, but I have no conscious memory of looking at their shoes.
I will interrupt and say that shoes are very important in the assessment of an individual. Which shoes, what color shoes, what condition the shoes are in. Less with women than men, because women are more likely to decide what shoes to wear because of what they are wearing as opposed to where they are wearing them and most men the opposite.
I have a very good success rate at picking out armed people as opposed to not armed. You can only depend on body movement for the people that don’t carry often or are new to carrying. It is more in how they react to their surroundings how they pay attention than in how they stand or favor their body. Its why I tell people to carry all of the time, so that you stop favoring where the weapon is, even police favor their hide gun until they stop thinking about it being there.
Any way an armed person will be assessing and dismissing threats while an unarmed person mostly will not be. IMO being armed creates an unconscious situational assessment within people, some more than others. An unarmed person will be moving with the flow, even when standing in line. An armed person will create a flow. That’s the only way I know to describe it. It appears to me others flow around them as if they have a wall up or a sign on. And it isn’t anything the other people are doing on purpose or consciously but it is the same as if you were watching a school of fish react to a predator fish but not a feeding predator. As if they know it isn’t feeding and it isn’t a danger but it is dangerous. Why? How do they know? And more important why are they not aware that they know? Making people aware of what they are seeing and therefore creating a reason to make an assessment, seems to be the hardest thing to do.
I go to a mall or public place and see money change hands like it was in slow motion when other people can’t recall anything about the person who was there. Why? I think I feel a tension in a person and am therefore more conscious of what that person does because they are already on my radar, rather than just noticing an activity.
I wish I could teach that or bottle it but that’s the point, I no longer believe it can be taught. It’s a statistical anomaly, a glitch in DNA, something left over from another time.
I hope I didn’t take the thread too far off track, to me it is the track, but again that is me.
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Post by Cwi555 on Jun 20, 2012 19:14:44 GMT -7
The thread was not taken off point. You had to recover that ground or the last part would sound disjointed out of the blue.
Thanks for posting that Woodzy.
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Post by woodyz on Jun 20, 2012 19:28:31 GMT -7
I couldn't figure out what you meant, but I do now, that was already there I guess. I just felt that points you had made and I had made would grow value with opinions from the others who may look at those points differently. I didn't want to lose them.
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Post by mud on Jun 20, 2012 21:10:31 GMT -7
Since I am one of those who thought this a good idea to explore, I will post my oddities as well. I have discussed at some length with CWI some of the events that have occurred in my life so in the interest of full disclosure I will start with some relevant background.
My first time 'knowing' or 'sensing' something was wrong was when I was about 10. We had prowlers in our area on occasion and this night one was trying to get in the front door. I had my shotgun ready but was scared to death to shoot through the door. I instead stared at a picture on the bedroom wall. Not sure how it changed but I was suddenly watching my mom and her friend. I noticed a green station wagon behind them. She called about 30 min later and I asked about the car. She got quiet and said they would be home soon. After she got home she kept me up past midnight wanting to know how I knew about the car. Seems when she looked back from the phone booth it was parked about a half a block behind her with the engine running.
Second one was a bridge on I40 falling down under a semi. What actually happened was a semi ran off the bridge.
After that I became very attuned to what was around me, especially in the woods where I grew up. That awareness grew to include urban settings as I stayed with my dad. It translated from nature to the nature of people. That awareness kept me out of bunch of potentially bad situations.
When I was 13 I died for a short time.. less than a minute but dead none the less. That is when things really began to make me feel different. The awareness turned to intuition and an uncanny ability to process information not only from my surroundings, but from people. Nothing you can put your finger on but something, anything not in my framework of normalcy would stand out.
When my grandfather lay dying, I was awake for 52 hours...other than 15 min where I dreamed of a girl. This was in 1992. She and I have been married for 13 years now and been together for 17
I saved both my kids from choking and there was no possible way I could have heard anything and yet something told me to move fast and check on them. I knew the moment both my grandfather and father left this world.
There is much more but that is about as much personal info as I care to post at this time. I am not claiming to be a psychic or any such thing but I do believe that somewhere in the 70% of our brain we do not use lies latent abilities and lost talents. I think part of mine woke up when I was revived.
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Post by missj on Jun 20, 2012 22:10:41 GMT -7
i love this thread. It is enthralling.
Please don't be offended when I say I don't really believe in a "6th sense"....but that is probably just because I don't have one!
I don't have any awesome stories...I have saved my son from choking; something caused me to go check on him....but I'd just chalk that up to situational awareness.....
Speaking of situational awareness....this will sound really lame to some people I'm sure.....but that is a term I'm very familiar with as a successful semi-professional poker player. There are entire poker books written about situational awareness (the classic "Book of Tells" by Mike Caro comes to mind.)
Some people have mentioned that the human mind itself is a survival tool and that critical thinking is a skill that must be developed....well I totally agree. I don't think I was born with any exceptional abilities. But I think I've done a good job at honing a few that are very useful.
Situational awareness is EVERYTHING at the poker table, are they distracted by the cocktail waitress or text messages? Is that blabbermouth holding his breath for once? Is their posture in an "alert" stance or a relaxed stance? Did they stop chewing their gum all of a sudden when the third diamond came? Did they ever so subtly glance at their chips before checking to me...?
It may sound trivial but this type of skill can be practiced, enhanced and refined beyond belief. Nowadays without even trying I find myself in traffic KNOWING which Jack-A$$ is going to swerve into my lane. At work I KNOW which patients are going to yell at me before I even grab their chart....It is a learned skill that eventually becomes subconscious. background.
And at the poker table those who can intensely focus for hours and tuck away the info for later use eventually walk away with most of the money....
How else do you think I afford all these preps on a dental hygienist's salary?
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Post by Cwi555 on Jun 21, 2012 5:01:46 GMT -7
I am not claiming to be a psychic or any such thing but I do believe that somewhere in the 70% of our brain we do not use lies latent abilities and lost talents. I think part of mine woke up when I was revived. That same statement has been recorded many times in near death/death experiences. Most folks don't like to talk about it openly as those who have not experienced it, usually ridicule it when the statement is made. There are a lot of things science doesn't understand and mistakes for other things.
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Post by cowgirlup on Jun 21, 2012 6:13:29 GMT -7
Please don't be offended when I say I don't really believe in a "6th sense"....but that is probably just because I don't have one! quote] You probably do have it to some degree but like most people you have been trained to dismiss it. This isn't something supernatural. It's part of your sensory system. The feeling you are being watched. Walking into a room and feeling someone doesn't like you is all part of that. I've had a couple of dreams that came true The first on in HS I dreamed I was standing in line to buy a snack and my best friend came up to me and said "K"wants to see you. SO I went over to his table at lunch and he looked at me like "What do you want?" some of his friends laughed. The table was quiet with all of them looking at me so I just walked away feeling stupid. A few days later I'm in line for a snack and here she comes. And says "K wants you". I said. "No he doesn't" She insisted he did. We went back and forth and I finally gave in and we went over. It happened just like in the dream only I felt extra stupid because I'd had a warning. I asked who really sent for me and it was one of his friends. He wanted to group of guys to check me out. K didn't know about it and ended up breaking up with me because I didn't pass inspection. The crazy thing was when I thought about it I was even wearing the same clothes as in the dream. Sometimes I get what I call flashes on people. A thought will just flash into my head and then it's gone. When I met one of my friends husbands for the first time I had a flash. HE'S CHEATING ON HER. I found out a year later that he really was. I've gotten them while working on people. If I meet someone and have an instant dislike for them there always turns out to be a good reason. So when I get that vibe I file it away and am cautious around them.
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Post by tjwilhelm on Jun 21, 2012 6:43:41 GMT -7
While he has many devoted students, there are also a lot of folks who openly express poor opinions of Tom Brown Jr. ("the Tracker"). Much of these poor opinions are based on the more "philosophic" teachings of his alleged mentor, referred to as "Grandfather."
Related to this thread, a key point of (Grandfather's) Tom Brown's teachings is the need to get in touch with, and develop, what's being referred to here as a "6th sense." Some of Brown's students are totally turned off by this. Others get totally into it.
A key advantage to being able to recognize and develop this sensitivity is its usefulness in avoiding danger. Imagine a SHTF scenario. Your small group is bugging out, on foot, down a seemingly vacated road. Ahead -- out of range from your 5 physical senses -- is a band of armed hostiles. If a trusted member of your small group has developed this 6th sense, they may announce, "Hey, gang. Something doesn't feel right. I have a sense we should get off the road for awhile." Immediately, he (or she) does just that -- they get off the road. The rest of the group, not in touch with that 6th sense, needs to decide how to proceed. Several members will likely follow the person off the road and into the bush. Others may say "Bull S**t" and keep on down the road. 30 minutes later, the portion of the group that paused in the bush hear gunshots from the direction they were previously heading...ouch.
I am one who believes this 6th sense is a real thing...a real ability that we all have the potential to recognize, develop, and manifest.
Personally, I'd like to read some examples of how others here have worked to practice and develop this sense. Any takers?
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Post by Cwi555 on Jun 21, 2012 7:25:33 GMT -7
While he has many devoted students, there are also a lot of folks who openly express poor opinions of Tom Brown Jr. ("the Tracker"). Much of these poor opinions are based on the more "philosophic" teachings of his alleged mentor, referred to as "Grandfather." Related to this thread, a key point of (Grandfather's) Tom Brown's teachings is the need to get in touch with, and develop, what's being referred to here as a "6th sense." Some of Brown's students are totally turned off by this. Others get totally into it. A key advantage to being able to recognize and develop this sensitivity is its usefulness in avoiding danger. Imagine a SHTF scenario. Your small group is bugging out, on foot, down a seemingly vacated road. Ahead -- out of range from your 5 physical senses -- is a band of armed hostiles. If a trusted member of your small group has developed this 6th sense, they may announce, "Hey, gang. Something doesn't feel right. I have a sense we should get off the road for awhile." Immediately, he (or she) does just that -- they get off the road. The rest of the group, not in touch with that 6th sense, needs to decide how to proceed. Several members will likely follow the person off the road and into the bush. Others may say "Bull S**t" and keep on down the road. 30 minutes later, the portion of the group that paused in the bush hear gunshots from the direction they were previously heading...ouch. I am one who believes this 6th sense is a real thing...a real ability that we all have the potential to recognize, develop, and manifest. Personally, I'd like to read some examples of how others here have worked to practice and develop this sense. Any takers? That would be a long answer, full of things some folks would take exception to, but I'll give it a go this weekend.
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