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Post by Cwi555 on May 21, 2012 8:31:30 GMT -7
I have a question about a more modern tractor. I have a Kubota 2350 diesel but is hydrostatic. I know you cannot easily start an auto car by pushing but it is possible with the a lenco transmition.(has a clutch like a manual) The other question is more complex to my meager mind. OK I store it in a metal barn which is in contact with the ground on 3 sides, the tractor itself is grounded by the implements I leave on(angle blade and bucket). would that grounding mitigate any of the emp effects? You would risk damage to the seals in the transmission if you attempt to pull/push start it. The fluid would be moving without true direction. True clutch powered manual trannys are pretty much it, as far as pushing/pulling off. Jimmy I agree. Without the pump working, it would likely blow out the seals. Suggest laying hands on a manual tranny to put aside for that purpose.
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Post by mud on May 22, 2012 21:15:16 GMT -7
How about lawn/garden tractors? they run on magnetos...wouldnt take much to rig up a pull rope but you would have to figure how to fuel it or convert it to woodgas
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Post by missasip on May 23, 2012 7:17:26 GMT -7
How about lawn/garden tractors? they run on magnetos...wouldnt take much to rig up a pull rope but you would have to figure how to fuel it or convert it to woodgas Yup. They sure do, at least the older olds have them. IMO, fuel will be a bigger issue than all the rest put together. Jimmy
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Post by swamprat1 on Jun 7, 2012 18:16:11 GMT -7
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IMO, fuel will be a bigger issue than all the rest put together.
Jimmy[/quote]
That's the big issue I think. Store it to long and it goes bad. Even if you had way to store bulk fuel you would have the problem of it going bad before you use it all. Fuel stabilizers can only do so much. Also you risks attracting unwanted attention from those that can't drive.
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Post by tjwilhelm on Jun 7, 2012 18:50:43 GMT -7
You're obviously talking about ignition magnetos here; BUT, (other than the high-voltage, impulse output of ignition magnetos) "magneto" is also a generic term for all, permanent-magnet-field alternators. Of note, ALL magnetos are likely to survive an EMP. Even permanent-magnet DC motors can have their shafts forced to turn and they will spit out DC current.
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Post by Pennsylvania Mike on Jun 7, 2012 20:33:24 GMT -7
The way I look at EMP is that if it would happen as a bomb we would be retaliating with nuclear weapons and it is going to be an ugly situation, not only for us but for most of the word (looking at this as a worst case scenario), if it would be sun produced event big enough, it would probably affect other nations as well and we all are going to in the dark meaning without electrical power.
Looking back in history, I remember reading of the steam power engines such as trains, ships, even cars and tractors for farming, all without having to use gasoline, and if we as a nation would have to depend on this type of power remember we have ample supply of coal, and if need be wood that is managed correctly would be a infinite source of fuel by planting more than we use.
Just fuel for thought, we still can depend on water power to produce electric and run mills, as well as wind power to eventually produce electricity in small amounts, as well as solar for electric once we get back on our feet, as well as by then natural gas and petroleum of gas engines.
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Post by missasip on Jun 8, 2012 20:07:33 GMT -7
The way I look at EMP is that if it would happen as a bomb we would be retaliating with nuclear weapons and it is going to be an ugly situation, not only for us but for most of the word (looking at this as a worst case scenario), if it would be sun produced event big enough, it would probably affect other nations as well and we all are going to in the dark meaning without electrical power. Looking back in history, I remember reading of the steam power engines such as trains, ships, even cars and tractors for farming, all without having to use gasoline, and if we as a nation would have to depend on this type of power remember we have ample supply of coal, and if need be wood that is managed correctly would be a infinite source of fuel by planting more than we use. Just fuel for thought, we still can depend on water power to produce electric and run mills, as well as wind power to eventually produce electricity in small amounts, as well as solar for electric once we get back on our feet, as well as by then natural gas and petroleum of gas engines. Very good thoughts Mike. I think you are correct, we will be using many forms of energy to make other types of energy. Jimmy
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Post by jimmyq on Jul 11, 2012 23:05:40 GMT -7
Late to this thread but... First question: Where did the answer on the car battery survival end up? Second thought: Just watched a tv show and they talked about a car converted to biodiesel, sourced from fast food joint grease then processed in the home made rig. Who figures fast food joints are going to be rocking after a bug out disaster?
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Post by woodyz on Jul 12, 2012 1:17:53 GMT -7
There was a post before ST hit the fan, where someone had taken parts from a particular lawn mower and made it into a starter I think, showed in pictures and text what to do, but I don't have it.
There was also a post I made where we made a generator run on woodgas. I am sure I will have that one, just have to find it.
This is exactly why we have been installing pre-70 engines into 4WD trucks, and putting in standard transmissions. But also we have been buying Diesels. pre-2000 dully's are going for less than 4K, some times we will have to rework them or get a new transmission, 2.5K. Then we rig them to run on diesel, propane, or bio. We also got a 3500 Diesel to run on woodgas.
Getting a tractor to run on wood gas should be easier then a truck because you can replace the front weights with the "boiler".
Maybe we should take a look at steam engines and see what we can work up there? Hum
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Post by walter2 on Oct 7, 2013 12:15:36 GMT -7
I don't think any of us would have much luck push starting a diesel without first powering the glow plugs.
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Post by missasip on Oct 7, 2013 19:22:26 GMT -7
I don't think any of us would have much luck push starting a diesel without first powering the glow plugs. If ones diesel has glow plugs and requires them. Not all have glow plugs. Granted in very cold areas in winter there will be issues. My Yanmar will start quite. Nicely in my part of the world in winter as long as the hill is steep... Jimmy
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