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Post by ccove on Oct 14, 2012 7:29:56 GMT -7
My primary BOV was my jeep cherokee, v-8 trail rated yada yada yada. I live in suburbs so cross country is really not high on the list.Recently however I purchased a new car, a 1992 mercedes 300sd (diesel). The car is in perfect condition and runs great. It is big, powerful and gets more then 600 miles to a tank. The jeep is lucky to get 400. Does anyone have any experince with diesels or preference over gas?
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Post by missasip on Oct 14, 2012 8:07:25 GMT -7
Diesel fuel will hold up a good bit longer than gasoline. Make that MB fuel systemshutoff manual and park it on a hill and you would have a good emp BOV too...
Jimmy
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Post by WILL on Oct 14, 2012 8:39:15 GMT -7
I think you're onto something there ccove. I'd say it’s a more likely scenario that an economical & efficient vehicle will an asset in a future financial meltdown than you running off-road from a tank blockade and peeing into your 4X4’s shot-up radiator. Something like a Subaru AWD would probably be a great compromise because it gets good mileage but still works under mildly adverse conditions. I suspect our roads will probably be neglected due to maintenance funds shortages in a future depression.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2012 10:37:48 GMT -7
We have several deisel trucks around here...the only issue is in the cold weather, some of them need to be plugged in to keep them warm, others need glow plugs...and if it gets to terribly cold, you will find the deisel gums up in the carburator. BUT they are very reliable and easy to work on...as long as its not the new fandangled type.
I want a deisel if I ever get a different truck...but the cost of fuel is getting outly ragious! I am thinking though in a SHTF situation, you could easily convert it to biodeisel...maybe? Something you could make at home adn have on hand for traveling. Not sure, but we keep the OLD 1 ton dually running...just in case.
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Post by ccove on Oct 14, 2012 10:50:00 GMT -7
Dink the biodiesel has crossed my mind. I really don't think with the way I am situated here (a big island ) I will really be able to go any where unless I start early. The diesel occured to me when i waas watching the walking dead and rick was wandering around with a gas can looking for fuel. I bet there would be a good number of abandoned commerical trucks, etc left about.
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Post by ccove on Oct 14, 2012 10:51:02 GMT -7
Diesel fuel will hold up a good bit longer than gasoline. Make that MB fuel systemshutoff manual and park it on a hill and you would have a good emp BOV too... Jimmy Had not thought of that Jimmy
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2012 10:53:44 GMT -7
A dear friend of mine has a bosat that they did SOMETHING to the motor on it and now it runs on deisel...don't ask me what he did, he won't tell me, I already asked. He said if he wants to get from one point of Lake Ozarks to another that he can by making his own deisel. If you are stuck on an island...maybe this can be an option of some sort for you as well?
Biodeisel for a new ride as well as a boat to relocate off the island might be useful...just in case? several tanks filled and ready would be a big bonus if you had to bug out for any length of time!
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Post by ccove on Oct 14, 2012 10:58:33 GMT -7
A dear friend of mine has a bosat that they did SOMETHING to the motor on it and now it runs on deisel...don't ask me what he did, he won't tell me, I already asked. He said if he wants to get from one point of Lake Ozarks to another that he can by making his own deisel. If you are stuck on an island...maybe this can be an option of some sort for you as well? Biodeisel for a new ride as well as a boat to relocate off the island might be useful...just in case? several tanks filled and ready would be a big bonus if you had to bug out for any length of time! Well my Island sucks to get stuck on. Check long Island New York and u will see what I mean. I could use a boat to get across to conn. or may be NJ.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2012 11:00:55 GMT -7
Pick a spot where you could land realatively easy & un-noticed...maybe if you have a friend in that area, have an older BOV set up for biodeisel, take a bike and cart along on the boat, load your stuff in the cart and bike to the BOV. Then get the BLEEP out of dodge!! Kind of a round about way of doing things...but might prove to be a lifesaving investment.
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Post by missj on Oct 14, 2012 12:48:52 GMT -7
I had a 1977 Mercedes Diesel. It was a dream, had 360,000+ miles on it with no problems and got 600+ miles per tank. It doesn't get super cold here (maybe a handful of nights per year in the low 20s) and so we never had any problems with the glow-plugs being enough to start her up. I did run a 20% Biodiesel blend.
There a few things to consider in the BioDiesel topic: First there is BioDiesel and SVO (straight vegetable oil). BioDiesel is chemically processed very similarly to #2 diesel and suitable to use on most diesel engines in some percentage. You could not easily recycle cooking oil and make your own BioDiesel- you'd be reliant on the refineries and dispensing stations being up and running.
If your car is older than 1994 you won't want to run more than 20-30% BioDiesel due to the natural rubber in the fuel lines- otherwise you'll need to replace the fuel lines with synthetic rubber.
If your car is newer than 2007 you cannot run 100% Biodiesel due to something with the newer fuel filters? I don't remember exactly.
If you are able to run BioDiesel in any % then it is perfectly fine to switch back and forth between regular diesel and BioDiesel.
If you want to run SVO (like recycle cooking oil and dump it right into your tank) then you'll need to do a lot of expensive conversions. For one....the oil needs to be warmed up to make it thin enough to run through the lines so you have to install a special tank, or warming portion of the tank, different fuel lines, different fuel filters...it can definitely be done....but it's a big commitment and not super cheap or simple....with SVO you cannot go back and forth between regular diesel and SVO...infact if you get the SVO conversion you cannot even run BioDiesel.
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Post by ccove on Nov 1, 2012 11:55:04 GMT -7
Hey guys, I found another plus. With the hurricane, there is no gas around, plenty of diesel but no gas.
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