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Post by pathwinder14 on May 9, 2013 8:21:42 GMT -7
This is part 2 of my small series. Here we will discuss chokes. What is a choke as it relates to martial arts or self defense? A choke is an attempt to cut of either air or blood flow to an opponent's brain by means of grappling the neck in one fashion or another. Safety caveat thanks to woodyz: Do not try without proper training. Once a person goes limp, release the choke!There are 2 types of chokes. Those are blood chokes and airway chokes. The most common choke employed is the blood choke. It works faster, is easier to apply, and is more reliable. It can also be more dangerous. A blood choke applies pressure on one or both carotid arteries on the sides of an opponent's neck in order to slow or prevent oxyginated bloodflow to the brain. From the picture below we see that the sides of the neck where pressure can be applied are at the common carotid artery below the arterial junction thus stoppong blood flow from both the internal and external arteries. This causes the opponent to see stars and then black out. If it is prolonged it can cause brain damage or death. An Air/Airway choke is exactly what it states. It is cutting off the air supply to an opponent by applying pressure to the neck on the trachea. This is easier to apply, but less effective, and is commonly achieved by beginners as they learn not to "muscle" their techniques.
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Post by Cwi555 on May 9, 2013 14:44:54 GMT -7
Interesting post..
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Post by marc on May 9, 2013 16:38:54 GMT -7
And I was getting ready to argue Modified vs. Improved...................
I've witnessed a choke out - scary how fast the wiry little dude took out the 6'4" wall of muscle - both of them Seals. (My brother was Navy)
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Post by thywar on May 9, 2013 17:06:08 GMT -7
I've witnessed it. I was one of the biggest guys in my police academy and was routinely 'volunteered' as the 'suspect'. Being choked out is zero fun. He let go as soon as I became limp. (1973). Different times
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Post by pathwinder14 on May 10, 2013 5:02:09 GMT -7
In my classes the instructor insisted everyone be choked out (blood choke) at least once so they knew what it felt like and how to recognize the onset.
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Post by woodyz on May 10, 2013 11:11:53 GMT -7
I've used both many times and been on the receiving end of both several times, as you indicate for training purposes.
I preFer to use the blood choke from behind and the airway from in front.
I caution everyone that once the victim goes limp stop the procedure. It only takes a few extra seconds of either on to do real or permanent damage. Counting the seconds the hold is applied is one method, as some bigger and stronger necked individuals may react differently and not go as limp. The blood choke is stopping blood flow to the brain, the longer the blood flow is stop the more the damage. When applied correctly the blood chokes only require a few seconds. The airway has more fudge factor room, provide it is not applied with enough pressure to collapse the airway.
ANother thing is once the victim does go limp you must be careful to not let their own body weight break their neck, you must turn loose not just relax the hold.
Sorry! I'll let you tell it.
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Post by pathwinder14 on May 10, 2013 11:33:54 GMT -7
I've used both many times and been on the receiving end of both several times, as you indicate for training purposes. I preFer to use the blood choke from behind and the airway from in front. I caution everyone that once the victim goes limp stop the procedure. It only takes a few extra seconds of either on to do real or permanent damage. Counting the seconds the hold is applied is one method, as some bigger and stronger necked individuals may react differently and not go as limp. The blood choke is stopping blood flow to the brain, the longer the blood flow is stop the more the damage. When applied correctly the blood chokes only require a few seconds. The airway has more fudge factor room, provide it is not applied with enough pressure to collapse the airway. ANother thing is once the victim does go limp you must be careful to not let their own body weight break their neck, you must turn loose not just relax the hold. Sorry! I'll let you tell it. No. Do not apologize. I thank you very much, I forgot my safety caveat. I modified the post.
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