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Post by olebama on Aug 22, 2016 14:55:14 GMT -7
Gang,
I put some pinto beans up for long term storage in 2011. Mylar bags and oxygen absorber. Opened some yesterday to cook. They won't get soft. Soaked overnight and cooked all day today. I guess I could eat them as they are, but wondering if I did (or am doing something wrong).
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Post by woodyz on Aug 22, 2016 17:21:22 GMT -7
i had a five # bag, packaged the same, 5 years in and they wouldn't get soft either.
they were stored in the dark but in temp extremes 30 to 130 in metal building
vacuum sealed in mylar bags they should be good for 10 years, but i think they need to be in a steady cool temp
that makes storage harder, but i think you leave out any of the steps you will get about a year of storage
on the other hand another package done at the same time the same way was fine
i plant to continue as done but store where the temp stays closer to the same
the ones i have i will soak overnight and if they won't swell i will plant them instead of eating
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Post by missasip on Aug 22, 2016 18:14:34 GMT -7
Two things. Steady temp and vac sealed. You neglect either they will get that way.
But they can be made soft....pressure cook....works at least 50% of the time for me...
Jimmy
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Post by sirderrin on Aug 22, 2016 18:37:48 GMT -7
Two things. Steady temp and vac sealed. You neglect either they will get that way. But they can be made soft....pressure cook....works at least 50% of the time for me... Jimmy and if all else fails add fat back, salt pork(aka bacon)  |
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Post by olebama on Aug 22, 2016 19:52:48 GMT -7
Gang thank you so very much. At least some of them were stored in a basement, so maybe those are all right. We were discussing pressure cooking them.
Jimmy, do you have info on how you pressure cooked them? how long, etc? I know the wife will ask me.....
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Post by ColcordMama on Aug 23, 2016 0:23:25 GMT -7
You want to be careful pressure cooking dried beans. Seems to me my old cookbooks warn that they can splatter thick bean juice when the boiling bubbles break and clog the vent, which can lead to stuff like pressure buildups and explosions. At the very least please read up a bit on this before you do it, ok?
As for older dried beans being hard to soften, yes they get that way. You should definitely rotate them every year or so, and the best way to rotate is plant what you don't cook up, then harvest and dry what you plant. Pinto beans are super easy to grow. They are an heirloom, not hybrid, and prolific producers given minimal care. Plus which, the young tender pods are excellent used as green beans. Boil 'em up with a hunk of bacon and dig in. The flavor will remind you of how green beans used to taste when we were kids and called them string beans because we had to pull the strings out of our mouths and pile them beside our plates, remember?
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Post by missasip on Aug 23, 2016 7:10:22 GMT -7
Gang thank you so very much. At least some of them were stored in a basement, so maybe those are all right. We were discussing pressure cooking them. Jimmy, do you have info on how you pressure cooked them? how long, etc? I know the wife will ask me..... We pressured them for about 10 mins @ 2 lbs iirc. They won't be cooked but will be softened. Finish cooking as normal. Like I said works about 50% of the time. Low pressure short time. As Miss Kay said, can't let them get too done in the pressure cooker. Jimmy |
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Post by olebama on Aug 23, 2016 8:33:10 GMT -7
Thank you both.
Now I also put up white rice when I put up the beans. I have not opened any of the rice yet. Any issues with the rice under similar storage conditions?
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Post by woodyz on Aug 23, 2016 8:37:54 GMT -7
none with rice for me.
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Post by olebama on Oct 22, 2016 14:48:09 GMT -7
Just for your info, we cooked up some rice put up in 2012 and it cooked up just fine. Put into mylar bag with oxygen absorber and mylar bag placed into food saver bag with cooking instructions. I did it like that to give some protection from dampness to the instructions (I forgot to put the instructions into the mylar bag.)
ONe thing. I forgot to put how much water to use on the instructions. SIGH.
I would forget my head if it wasn't screwed on.
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Post by Redneckidokie on Oct 22, 2016 23:24:49 GMT -7
Yea, just dumped 300 pounds from 08 out for the deer and critters.
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Post by woodyz on Oct 23, 2016 16:20:28 GMT -7
oh great now all the animals in ok will be farting like a fat girl in heat
although when you are deer hunting this year you won't need to worry about them smelling you.
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Post by thywar on Oct 23, 2016 16:24:26 GMT -7
Yea, just dumped 300 pounds from 08 out for the deer and critters. Now I'm worrying all the methane will give us 90* temps in December. |
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Post by Redneckidokie on Oct 28, 2016 21:19:32 GMT -7
Hahaha, sounds like 4th of July all nite.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 8:43:21 GMT -7
i keep my beans and rice in totes.in which their kept in my beedroom,or closet seeing how it dont get to hot or cold there.and to top it off.they dont last 3 months there,simply because i love canning.and the home canned fods,gets put into the boxes the jars came in to begin with.then into the bedroom closet they go,to keep the sun and heat off of them during the summer..
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