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Post by beerjerk on Jul 12, 2012 19:05:16 GMT -7
I'm planning on hiking the Devil's Trail in Upstate New York in mid-September and am preparing ahead of time. The Devil's Trail is a 24 mile long hike, considered the most grueling hike in the East Coast (aside from hiking the entire Appalachian Trail). Experts do it in one day, while others complete it in 2-3 days. I'm planning on staying 4 days so I can take some time to practice skills, as to take time to fully enjoy nature and not rush through it.
Anyways, I'm making two lists: what I already have and what I need. If anyone can suggest anything that I could add/delete on my list please feel free to do so, as well as any tips or pointers. I'm buying everything ahead of time, while at the same time comparing quality, prices, etc.
What I have:
Frame backpack Buck knife Mora knife Swiss Army Champion First aid kit Lighters Paracord Compass x 2 Hatchet Metal cup Metal water bottles Flashlights Batteries
What I need:
1 person compact tent sleeping bag firesteel water purification tablets portable water filter trowel metal pan metal dish MRE's (planning to make my own packages) maps headlamp
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Post by WILL on Jul 12, 2012 20:05:16 GMT -7
What I have: Frame backpack Buck knife Mora knife Swiss Army Champion First aid kit Lighters Paracord Compass x 2 Hatchet Metal cup Metal water bottles Flashlights Batteries What I need: 1 person compact tent sleeping bag firesteel water purification tablets portable water filter trowel metal pan metal dish MRE's (planning to make my own packages) maps headlamp I would bring an insulated sleeping pad and a warm bag. I wouldn't be surprised if it got into the 40s at night at that altitude. I'm not sure what kind of food you are bringing, but if anything needs cooking or heating an MSR Pocket Rocket stove with one 4 oz fuel bottle could be invaluable. A heavy plastic spork is also nice to have along. Some rain gear might be a good idea. A pack of mole skin will help with blisters. Don't forget the TP and Wet Ones. Be sure to bring warm enough cloths. You’ll probably be fine hiking in jeans and a t-shirt, but when the sun goes down, you better have some warmer cloths to put on. Stuff to unload- You have to be careful with redundancy. I know survivalist have a thing for two is one, but keeping your pack weight down is very important in the mountains. For that reason, I would only bring one knife and compass. I would substitute an aluminum pot for the dish and pan. Make sure you have a leatherman or aluminum, aluminum pot handle to pull it from the fire. I would dump the flashlight in favor of the headlamp. If you wanted to bring several different knives and an ax to experiment with in the woods, I get that. That's just alot of weight.
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Post by beerjerk on Jul 12, 2012 20:25:11 GMT -7
What I have: Frame backpack Buck knife Mora knife Swiss Army Champion First aid kit Lighters Paracord Compass x 2 Hatchet Metal cup Metal water bottles Flashlights Batteries What I need: 1 person compact tent sleeping bag firesteel water purification tablets portable water filter trowel metal pan metal dish MRE's (planning to make my own packages) maps headlamp I would bring an insulated sleeping pad and a warm bag. I wouldn't be surprised if it got into the 40s at night at that altitude. I'm not sure what kind of food you are bringing, but if anything needs cooking or heating an MSR Pocket Rocket stove with one 4 oz fuel bottle could be invaluable. A heavy plastic spork is also nice to have along. Some rain gear might be a good idea. A pack of mole skin will help with blisters. Don't forget the TP and Wet Ones. Be sure to bring warm enough cloths. You’ll probably be fine hiking in jeans and a t-shirt, but when the sun goes down, you better have some warmer cloths to put on. Stuff to unload- You have to be careful with redundancy. I know survivalist have a thing for two is one, but keeping your pack weight down is very important in the mountains. For that reason, I would only bring one knife and compass. I would substitute an aluminum pot for the dish and pan. Make sure you have a leatherman or aluminum, aluminum pot handle to pull it from the fire. I would dump the flashlight in favor of the headlamp. If you wanted to bring several different knives and an ax to experiment with in the woods, I get that. That's just alot of weight. The flashlight I'm using is small yet powerful. It's a Life Gear that can be seen for more than a mile away in case you need to signal, yet fits in the palm of your hand. It runs forever on a single AA and weighs close to nothing. Check it out: www.amazon.com/Life-Gear-LG323-Aircraft-Flashlight/dp/B004G8Q9EI/ref=sr_1_2?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1342149699&sr=1-2&keywords=life+gear+flashlight
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Post by woodyz on Jul 12, 2012 23:04:32 GMT -7
That looks like a lot of great views, please take pictures for stuck on flat land.
Does any one know how long this fuel canister lasts?
Gasone Premium Butane-propane Mix Fuel (Mix Fuel 4 Oz.)
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Post by Georgia Survivor on Jul 13, 2012 3:59:42 GMT -7
The flashlight I'm using is small yet powerful. It's a Life Gear that can be seen for more than a mile away in case you need to signal, yet fits in the palm of your hand. It runs forever on a single AA and weighs close to nothing. Check it out: www.amazon.com/Life-Gear-LG323-Ai....gear+flashlight-------- Just a note on your flashlight pick. A small, lightweight flashlight is good. But, bring extra batteries. The LED bulb will "run forever" as you put it. But, at 80 lumens, the battery will go pretty quickly, probably within 8-10 hours. I'd consider the earlier advice of using a headlamp instead. Sure is nice to have your hands free. I'd also leave the axe. If you need to burn wood, you will probably be able to pick up smaller, dead branches that you can break by hand. Won't really need an axe, and it will just be extra weight. When backpacking, less weight is critical. Good luck! O.S.
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Post by wtrfwlr on Jul 13, 2012 4:05:35 GMT -7
Looking at he list he has extra batteries already and has a headlamp on his to get list.
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Post by WILL on Jul 13, 2012 7:18:29 GMT -7
I would rather hike the Adirondacks High Peak area. It may be an extra two hours drive, but IMHO, it's well worth it because the hiking is much better. Here's a link... www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/9198.html
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Post by pathwinder14 on Jul 13, 2012 7:28:23 GMT -7
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Post by lonewufcry on Jul 13, 2012 7:40:16 GMT -7
I agree with what has been said, I have been backpacking for over 20 years and I use a simple listing of what to bring. The following list is also what I give to the scouts during the planning stages of a trek. Here is a listing that might be helpful. Also you can find ultralight list online.
The Ten Essentials (for safety, survival and basic comfort)
1. Navigation Map (with protective case) Compass GPS (optional) 2. Sun protection Sunscreen Lip balm Sunglasses 3. Insulation Jacket, vest, pants, gloves, hat (see Clothing) 4. Illumination Headlamp or flashlight (plus spare) Extra batteries 5. First-aid supplies First-aid kit (see our First-aid checklist) 6. Fire Matches or lighter Waterproof container Fire starter (for emergency survival fire) 7. Repair kit and tools Knife or multi-tool Kits for stove, mattress; duct tape strips 8. Nutrition Extra day's supply of food 9. Hydration Water bottles or Hydration system Water filter or other treatment system 10. Emergency shelter Tent, tarp, bivy or reflective blanket
Beyond the Ten Essentials Backpack Daypack or summit pack Pack cover Tent, Tarp or Bivy sack (with stakes, guylines)Tent-pole repair sleeve Footprint (if needed for tent) Sleeping bag Stuff sack or compression sack Sleeping pad Pillow or stuffable pillow case Whistle (plus signaling mirror) Multifunction watch with altimeter Trekking poles Ice axe Meals Energy food (bars, gels, chews, trail mix) Energy beverages or drink mixes Stove Fuel Cookset (with pot grabber) Dishes or bowls Utensils Cups (measuring cups) Bear conister (or hang bags for food) Nylon cord (50 feet for hanging food) Backup water treatment (e.g., halogens) Collapsible sink or container Packable lantern
Clothing options: Warm weather Wicking T-shirt (synthetic or wool) Wicking underwear Quick-drying pants or shorts Long-sleeve shirt (for sun, bugs) Sun-shielding hat Bandana or Buff
Cool weather (insulation in Ten Essentials) Wicking long-sleeve T-shirt Wicking long underwear (good sleepwear) Hat, cap, skullcap, balaclava or headband Gloves or mittens Rainwear (jacket, pants) Fleece jacket or vest, and pants Footwear; assorted personal items Boots or shoes suited to terrain Socks (synthetic or wool) plus spares Gaiters Sandals (for fording, in camp) Camera and memory cards Binoculars Permits Route description or guidebook Field guide(s); star identifier Notebook and pen or pencil Credit card; small amount of cash Earplugs and eye shade _______________ Toilet paper Sanitation trowel Hand sanitizer Insect repellant Headnet Bear Spray Toothbrush and/or toiletry kit Biodegradable soap (and shower bag) Quick-dry towel Cell phone/satellite comunicator/2-way radios Post-hike snacks, water, towel, clothing change Trip itinerary left w/ friend + under car seat
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Post by wtrfwlr on Jul 13, 2012 7:53:37 GMT -7
That is a very good list there lonewuf. I'm saving that one, even though I'm not a backpacker it's a great check sheet.
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Post by pathwinder14 on Jul 13, 2012 8:36:24 GMT -7
tool sharpeners. File and knife sharper.
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Post by northernbc on Jul 13, 2012 9:19:22 GMT -7
candle,will start a fire when all else fails
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Post by northernbc on Jul 13, 2012 9:25:32 GMT -7
some snare wire,it has so many uses, pack repair, sew boot soles back on ,hold pot over fire, catch supper.
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Post by northernbc on Jul 13, 2012 9:28:20 GMT -7
small mirror ,maybe a roll of flag tape,paper and pen.
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Post by hitec4you on Jul 13, 2012 11:17:01 GMT -7
I was just going to say a pen/pencil and paper. I always have a little pad and pencil with me.
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