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Post by woodyz on Aug 31, 2012 14:29:44 GMT -7
Armed customer shoots dollar store robber, killing him
By NBC News staff
A Jacksonville, Fla., dollar store customer shot and killed a robber Monday night, ActionNewsJax.com reported.
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According to the report, the customer -- a 57-year-old grandfather -- and two store employees were inside the Dollar General store Monday around 9 p.m. when two armed men entered the store with the intention to rob it.
"One of them had the clerk and one of them was at the front cash register,” Lt. Rob Schoonover of the Jacksonville Sheriff’s Office told Jacksonville.com.
The customer, who has a concealed weapon permit, shot and killed one of the intruders,FirstCoastNews.com reported.
"There was a citizen who had a concealed firearms permit that was inside the store as a customer," Lt. Schoonover told WOKV.com. "He fired at the suspect, striking him and killing him."
The man was found dead when police arrived at the scene. No charges are pending against the shooter, WOKV.com said.
“He’s always been a marksman,” the man's wife told Jacksonville.com. “He shoots in competitions, but this is the first time he’s ever killed anyone and I don’t know how he’ll handle that.”
The second suspect fled the scene in a small SUV, FirstCoastNews.com reported. Police say the man is about 6 feet tall man and was wearing khaki pants, a blue bandana and black gloves, ActionNewsJax.com reported.
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Post by crashdive123 on Aug 31, 2012 14:36:13 GMT -7
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Post by garret on Aug 31, 2012 14:36:26 GMT -7
chalk up another one for the good guys, and no wasted time and money on a court case for one of the slimeballs
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Post by thywar on Aug 31, 2012 15:16:48 GMT -7
It's all good on that day.. Hope that good armed citizen gets some counseling if he's bothered by it. Regardless, he did his civic duty that day.
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Post by crashdive123 on Aug 31, 2012 16:38:12 GMT -7
And the idiots - the one that was DRT and the one that was arrested later had bb guns that looked real.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2012 17:14:46 GMT -7
I pray he doesn't suffer any mental anguish for tking the life of another. HE did what was right, and he had no way of knowing if the guns were actual firearms, or pellet guns. He nay well have saved everyones life. Good for him & GOD bless him.
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Post by USCGME2 on Sept 2, 2012 11:04:33 GMT -7
Hate to be the fly in the ointment here but he will almost certainly face civil litigation that will likely carry on for years. I'd be suprised if he isn't sued by the store too. For the record, I'm more than ok that he did what he did and pray it works out for him on all fronts.
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Post by crashdive123 on Sept 2, 2012 15:47:24 GMT -7
Hate to be the fly in the ointment here but he will almost certainly face civil litigation that will likely carry on for years. I'd be suprised if he isn't sued by the store too. For the record, I'm more than ok that he did what he did and pray it works out for him on all fronts. I doubt that he will. Florida's Castle Doctrine laws prevent criminal and civil charges, and according to police accounts, he was well within his right to shoot. |
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Post by xwing on Sept 2, 2012 17:29:53 GMT -7
Ms law quite similar. Prevents criminal or civil action.
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Post by USCGME2 on Sept 3, 2012 8:08:21 GMT -7
Hate to be the fly in the ointment here but he will almost certainly face civil litigation that will likely carry on for years. I'd be suprised if he isn't sued by the store too. For the record, I'm more than ok that he did what he did and pray it works out for him on all fronts. I doubt that he will. Florida's Castle Doctrine laws prevent criminal and civil charges, and according to police accounts, he was well within his right to shoot. I can honestly say I did not know that. I had no idea that the Castle Laws protected against civil liability  That is cool. The only thing to hope for now then is the psychological impact factor. Hope he is doing ok. That kind of life event can be a game changer for some. |
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Post by woodyz on Sept 3, 2012 10:02:32 GMT -7
SC has the Castle Doctrine as well and it is very strong toward the shooter/protector plus the LEO here are pro CD.
Based on my experience for myself and others I know at least 95% will have trouble mentally. No one is glad to kill someone under any circumstance. Even murders have bad dreams and bad feelings about what they do, even when they continue to do it.
Some people reach a point where they either learn to block it out for a period of time but it will come back later. I had some things blocked out for 40 years.
The BB guns will add to his self questions and second guesses. He will work it out so he can accept it or he won't and it will remain like a black spot in his vision until it drives him nuts.
Suicide is way up right now in the military and though we will never be able to prove most will be due to the tricks your mind plays on you with the night mares and the second guessing. It would be my guess all would fit into 3 major groups.
They just can't do it any more, being in a constant state of readiness and expecting something just around the corner every minute just become too much.
They had a friend who was killed and some how have decided they could/should have been able to stop it.
They killed someone and can't shake it off. Doesn't matter if it was an enemy or a civilian or friendly fire.
They see it and relive it one to many times and they just have to stop the pain. So they do.
If you are going to second guess if the gun is real, if the knife is sharp, or if you should pull the trigger. Then I am telling you to stop carrying, you are only going to get someone or yourself killed. If you carry you have to assume the responsibilities of it up front. If you carry you have to be willing and ready to pull. If you pull, you have to be ready and willing to fire. If you fire you have to be ready and willing to kill and to live with killing afterwards.
I bet 3/4 who carry will never pull and I doubt half of those who pull will never fire, and 3/4 of those who fire will regret they did for the rest of their life.
But that's just my opinion.
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Post by webbdad on Sept 6, 2012 5:52:25 GMT -7
I have to admit, I run the scenario through my head all the time about shoot or dont shoot. In my mind I would do whatever necessary to protect myself, family and others from harm. With that being said , I have never been put in that situation where I have had to make a life or death choice. I would hope that all my preperation would allow me to make the correct decision and in a timely and accurate manner.
I think situational awareness and lots of training are key to making a level headed decision and then handling that decision later.
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That is cool. The only thing to hope for now then is the psychological impact factor. Hope he is doing ok. That kind of life event can be a game changer for some. 
