Post by urbanprep on Sept 1, 2012 10:28:01 GMT -7
WoodyZ thread on the state preppers network reminded me that just when the other board started having problems, I was going to post my notes from the prepper conference in Aiken, SC. For what they are worth, my notes follow:
I was able to attend the first Aiken (SC) Preppers Workshop on Saturday 14April2011. For what they are worth, these are the notes I took of the four presentations. This may be long, and it may not be relevant to your level of preparedness, so try to keep in mind that this is a new network and this was the inaugural meeting. There were about 100-125 people in attendance.
Invocation, Pledge and National Anthem: It was great to be with a bunch of folks, outside of church and pray. A local state representative sang the national anthem and did a darn good job.
Claude O'Donovan
Welcome and opening remarks : Claude was the organizer; 8 states are actively preparing for disasters, to include TX, FL, SC (other 5 were not mentioned) nor was what they were preparing for.
Scott Hunt, Practical Preppers
#1 thing is building a community; you can’t do it by yourself
Allows you to share costs of expensive items (cited a well drilling kit EXP-50 that cost a couple thousand dollars or so)
Likes to use solar pumps with no batteries (i.e. they only run in the sun)
Talked about rain water catchment
HOT H2O is going to be needed, he uses a lot of wood burning devices and thermo siphons to heat water; talked about going to LA to cut Trees after Katrina, his crew was only ones who had hot showers and laundry facilities because he brought the stuff to do that. How important that was for moral.
For Solar – he recommended and so did David Kobler, to start simple, get a $150 starter set from Harbor Freight, Northern or where ever and start experimenting with it now. Try a small system and experiment now. “Buy American” and “Buy cheap (as in inexpensive)”. Companies he named were : Sharp, Sun Power, Helios joked about Solyndra and got a long laugh out of it.
Solar panel – charge controller($50) – Battery – pump or Inverter-Device
The most expensive parts are controller, batteries and the inverter
For inverters, get a big one that can handle your highest Wattage needs.
“Everything about preppers is storage; Food, water, energy, ammo, everything.”
“Prepping is practice.”
Batteries: recommends EGM (could have been AGM sound was poor) or GEL like DECCA or Trojan T105 ; take care of them
For people who need a refrigerator for medicine, he highly recommended an RV refrigerator that can run on house current, 12V or propane, they are super efficient.
Generators: recommended the quiet Honda 2000W Tri-Fuel generators. Can hook 3 in series to get 6000 watts; they run on Gas, propane, Natural Gas.
Talked about Thermo electric cooling and recommended folks research pre-industrial revolution technology, as they were doing things like making ice, had refrigeration, etc before the industrial age over took those technologies and side lined them.
Vehicles: old school is better, especially with Gas; Diesel, up to the early 90s
He is experimenting and using wood gassifier system from Victory Gas Works.
David Kobler , Practical Preppers
Most people are lacking an ability to sustain themselves
If you are new to prepping Get the basics; Then think about sustainability
When planting, think about orchards and berries instead of azaleas
Look for efficient ways to do things
Be proficient with your weapons; the scary guy isn’t one with 10 AR15’s it is the guy that has 1 rifle and pistol and uses them all the time.
Radio communication discussion
• He and his friends all use Wouxun KG-Uv2D approx. $110
• Will cover ham and all civilian freqs. And can program emergency freqs.
• Your group should pick a few freqs and practice communications
• Develop your communications plan
Med Vet – good place to buy medical supplies (gauze, sponges, etc.) have a catalog you can get
Buy a $150 solar set up and experiment, he just got his a year ago and had been intimidated by it but is now comfortable (goes back to that prepping = practice)
Network / Group – have a plan, develop it; most folks are average Joes and not “extremists”
“You can’t survive long term without others”
Start NETWORKING.
Think Stockpile to Sustainability
Take it 1 step at a time
3day – 1 week – 2 week – 1month – 3months – 1 year
With respect to people who don’t like guns: if you can drive 60 mph with 2 yellow lines separating you from the oncoming vehicle, you can shoot; and shooting is MUCH safer.
Anaya Meszoros – “solarchef”; www.solarchef1.com
Enemies of food storage:
• Temperature (colder is better)
• Light
• O2
• Moisture
Budget yourself
• Use cupons
• Buy 1 get 1 free
• 10 for 10 dollars
• Bulk Buying
• Group buying
• There is a 6-8 week cycle in grocery stores for sales
• Buy NEEDS NOT Wants
Figure out what you normally eat then build your short term and your long term later
10 Must haves
• Light
• Cooking materials
• First Aid
• Seeds (Hybrid and heirloom) Everyone recommend having both
• Hygiene stuff
• Weapons / ammo
• Baby / Elder care products
• Bleach
• Water Filtration
• Energy
Also keep in mind barter items and have WAPI for pasteurization indicators
Date all can good with a sharpie so you don’t have to search for dates
Menus
Put on index cards, 7 breakfasts and 14 dinners (“if you have time for lunch during the apocalypse perhaps it isn’t what you think”) do this for 3 months then buy the supplies
Learn to cook now, not when the disaster happens
Store what you eat
Buy 1 item a month for long term storage
Solar cooking – like a slow cooker ; don’t cook broccoli or cheese (tastes weird)
Then she mentioned the following items:
• A haybox
• Volcanno grill
• Kelly Kettle
• Rocket Stove
• Water bricks (3.5 gallons)
One thing she has noticed is that a lot of folks she has talked to feel “something is coming” she thinks it is God sending folks a message, like he did Noah.
Dr. Mike Vasovski, DO
“In some ways if we had less to live on we would be better off”
Pharmacy – Stock Bottles have a shelf life of 6 years (unopened)
Keep vaccinations up to date; especially:
• Hepatitis A/B, tetanus, meningitis, pneumonia (this last 10 yrs)
• Flu – vaccine doesn’t prevent the flu it keeps you from dying from it. Flu can kill in 24 hours
Antibiotics to have:
• Augmentin – generic – upper respiratory, sinus, kidney/bladder, soft tissue infections
• Levquin – generic – bacterial pneumonia
• Flagyl– anaerobic germs, giardia, food borne illnesses (like diarrhea )
• penicillin– High dosage – abscess in the mouth
I was able to attend the first Aiken (SC) Preppers Workshop on Saturday 14April2011. For what they are worth, these are the notes I took of the four presentations. This may be long, and it may not be relevant to your level of preparedness, so try to keep in mind that this is a new network and this was the inaugural meeting. There were about 100-125 people in attendance.
Invocation, Pledge and National Anthem: It was great to be with a bunch of folks, outside of church and pray. A local state representative sang the national anthem and did a darn good job.
Claude O'Donovan
Welcome and opening remarks : Claude was the organizer; 8 states are actively preparing for disasters, to include TX, FL, SC (other 5 were not mentioned) nor was what they were preparing for.
Scott Hunt, Practical Preppers
#1 thing is building a community; you can’t do it by yourself
Allows you to share costs of expensive items (cited a well drilling kit EXP-50 that cost a couple thousand dollars or so)
Likes to use solar pumps with no batteries (i.e. they only run in the sun)
Talked about rain water catchment
HOT H2O is going to be needed, he uses a lot of wood burning devices and thermo siphons to heat water; talked about going to LA to cut Trees after Katrina, his crew was only ones who had hot showers and laundry facilities because he brought the stuff to do that. How important that was for moral.
For Solar – he recommended and so did David Kobler, to start simple, get a $150 starter set from Harbor Freight, Northern or where ever and start experimenting with it now. Try a small system and experiment now. “Buy American” and “Buy cheap (as in inexpensive)”. Companies he named were : Sharp, Sun Power, Helios joked about Solyndra and got a long laugh out of it.
Solar panel – charge controller($50) – Battery – pump or Inverter-Device
The most expensive parts are controller, batteries and the inverter
For inverters, get a big one that can handle your highest Wattage needs.
“Everything about preppers is storage; Food, water, energy, ammo, everything.”
“Prepping is practice.”
Batteries: recommends EGM (could have been AGM sound was poor) or GEL like DECCA or Trojan T105 ; take care of them
For people who need a refrigerator for medicine, he highly recommended an RV refrigerator that can run on house current, 12V or propane, they are super efficient.
Generators: recommended the quiet Honda 2000W Tri-Fuel generators. Can hook 3 in series to get 6000 watts; they run on Gas, propane, Natural Gas.
Talked about Thermo electric cooling and recommended folks research pre-industrial revolution technology, as they were doing things like making ice, had refrigeration, etc before the industrial age over took those technologies and side lined them.
Vehicles: old school is better, especially with Gas; Diesel, up to the early 90s
He is experimenting and using wood gassifier system from Victory Gas Works.
David Kobler , Practical Preppers
Most people are lacking an ability to sustain themselves
If you are new to prepping Get the basics; Then think about sustainability
When planting, think about orchards and berries instead of azaleas
Look for efficient ways to do things
Be proficient with your weapons; the scary guy isn’t one with 10 AR15’s it is the guy that has 1 rifle and pistol and uses them all the time.
Radio communication discussion
• He and his friends all use Wouxun KG-Uv2D approx. $110
• Will cover ham and all civilian freqs. And can program emergency freqs.
• Your group should pick a few freqs and practice communications
• Develop your communications plan
Med Vet – good place to buy medical supplies (gauze, sponges, etc.) have a catalog you can get
Buy a $150 solar set up and experiment, he just got his a year ago and had been intimidated by it but is now comfortable (goes back to that prepping = practice)
Network / Group – have a plan, develop it; most folks are average Joes and not “extremists”
“You can’t survive long term without others”
Start NETWORKING.
Think Stockpile to Sustainability
Take it 1 step at a time
3day – 1 week – 2 week – 1month – 3months – 1 year
With respect to people who don’t like guns: if you can drive 60 mph with 2 yellow lines separating you from the oncoming vehicle, you can shoot; and shooting is MUCH safer.
Anaya Meszoros – “solarchef”; www.solarchef1.com
Enemies of food storage:
• Temperature (colder is better)
• Light
• O2
• Moisture
Budget yourself
• Use cupons
• Buy 1 get 1 free
• 10 for 10 dollars
• Bulk Buying
• Group buying
• There is a 6-8 week cycle in grocery stores for sales
• Buy NEEDS NOT Wants
Figure out what you normally eat then build your short term and your long term later
10 Must haves
• Light
• Cooking materials
• First Aid
• Seeds (Hybrid and heirloom) Everyone recommend having both
• Hygiene stuff
• Weapons / ammo
• Baby / Elder care products
• Bleach
• Water Filtration
• Energy
Also keep in mind barter items and have WAPI for pasteurization indicators
Date all can good with a sharpie so you don’t have to search for dates
Menus
Put on index cards, 7 breakfasts and 14 dinners (“if you have time for lunch during the apocalypse perhaps it isn’t what you think”) do this for 3 months then buy the supplies
Learn to cook now, not when the disaster happens
Store what you eat
Buy 1 item a month for long term storage
Solar cooking – like a slow cooker ; don’t cook broccoli or cheese (tastes weird)
Then she mentioned the following items:
• A haybox
• Volcanno grill
• Kelly Kettle
• Rocket Stove
• Water bricks (3.5 gallons)
One thing she has noticed is that a lot of folks she has talked to feel “something is coming” she thinks it is God sending folks a message, like he did Noah.
Dr. Mike Vasovski, DO
“In some ways if we had less to live on we would be better off”
Pharmacy – Stock Bottles have a shelf life of 6 years (unopened)
Keep vaccinations up to date; especially:
• Hepatitis A/B, tetanus, meningitis, pneumonia (this last 10 yrs)
• Flu – vaccine doesn’t prevent the flu it keeps you from dying from it. Flu can kill in 24 hours
Antibiotics to have:
• Augmentin – generic – upper respiratory, sinus, kidney/bladder, soft tissue infections
• Levquin – generic – bacterial pneumonia
• Flagyl– anaerobic germs, giardia, food borne illnesses (like diarrhea )
• penicillin– High dosage – abscess in the mouth
