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Post by woodyz on Nov 5, 2012 13:40:53 GMT -7
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Post by thywar on Nov 5, 2012 13:52:55 GMT -7
Under chapter 4 there are six steps. Based on my dealings with the military and the government that qualifies for at least 25 meetings and two conferences (with all involved attending of course, in a resort town, where there is really nice weather in February, and air travel will be involved)
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Post by woodyz on Nov 5, 2012 14:07:51 GMT -7
My intent is to use the materials and ideas to evaluate and validate my own plans and actions, rather than practice or emulate this specific plan. However, if you are suggesting that you would be willing to sponsor and fund meetings in exotic places to discuss the merits of the plan............ count me in.  |
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Post by thywar on Nov 5, 2012 14:49:45 GMT -7
LOL.. you'll be the first one on the invite list.. well okay.. the members here will be..
It's always good to read over operational plans and then take them and make them your own in order for you to best be able to accomplish the job.
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Post by Cwi555 on Nov 5, 2012 16:30:21 GMT -7
That looks like a typical government procedure.
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Post by karatediver on Nov 6, 2012 9:42:42 GMT -7
Most of what FEMA does in regards to planning for emergencies is dictated by law. If people want to know why FEMA is slow in responding during natural dissasters it is the restraints put on it by law. Decision making is left to the lowest levels, your city, county, and state. Only when those are overwhelmed does the Federal support kick in and then only at the request of the State. But if your city or county isn't ready then they won't be requesting the help from the state and the state can't get them the resources. Incompetent emergency planning on your local level means things will not get done no matter how much Federal help there is. Find out how prepared your city and/or county is. How often they drill and how often they meet to go over their plan. My own county does very little. I've called them multiple times and they admit they haven't really done anything in a long time. So I plan on there being no relief no matter how good the State or FEMA is because those in charge locally will be clueless.
It is good to be familiar with FEMA's NIMS and ICS. After doing that you will realize you are better off being prepared on your own to make it because of all the layers of decision making required by law. If the help comes then that is great but relying on the government for anything is a recipe for dissaster.
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Post by oldcoothillbilly on Nov 7, 2012 15:42:07 GMT -7
Most of what FEMA does in regards to planning for emergencies is dictated by law. If people want to know why FEMA is slow in responding during natural dissasters it is the restraints put on it by law. Decision making is left to the lowest levels, your city, county, and state. Only when those are overwhelmed does the Federal support kick in and then only at the request of the State. But if your city or county isn't ready then they won't be requesting the help from the state and the state can't get them the resources. Incompetent emergency planning on your local level means things will not get done no matter how much Federal help there is. Find out how prepared your city and/or county is. How often they drill and how often they meet to go over their plan. My own county does very little. I've called them multiple times and they admit they haven't really done anything in a long time. So I plan on there being no relief no matter how good the State or FEMA is because those in charge locally will be clueless. It is good to be familiar with FEMA's NIMS and ICS. After doing that you will realize you are better off being prepared on your own to make it because of all the layers of decision making required by law. If the help comes then that is great but relying on the government for anything is a recipe for dissaster. Exactly! FEMA can't come in till a declaration has been made an there help is asked fer. After that be done, it ain't gonna happen fer at least 72 hours! Local goobernuts should be prepared fer the disasters in yer area an sadly many ain't. Were lucky here, cause we are better prepared then many localities. We have the largest CERT team in the state an train alot. The best bet be ta prepare yerself. That statement has been made by FEMA, cause even they can't help everbody! FEMA don't do everthin right, but they don't do everthin wrong either. People gotta learn ta take some personal responsibility fer themselves. An fer cryin out loud, when they tell ya ta leave, DO IT! Hey, yer life just might depend on it! |
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Post by oldcoothillbilly on Nov 7, 2012 15:44:57 GMT -7
Always good ta look at other's plans an pick out bits an pieces what'll work fer ya. Once ya get a plan tagether, try it out! See what ya fergot an what ya need ta change. As time goes by, ya need ta update the plan. Good stuff woodyz. |
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Post by cajunlady87 on Nov 8, 2012 13:19:27 GMT -7
Lots of great info Woodyz to guide people along, it appears many just don't take the time to familiarize themselves with this info and prepare on their own when alerted of an impending crisis on the horizon.
As mentioned FEMA doesn't come marching in after a disaster occurs. It begins on the smallest level of government first.
Hurricanes are the most predictable disasters as to when they'll hit a certain area. Hence, county or in my case our parish president must submit a declaration of disaster letter to our governor even before the storm hits, that's protocol.
Once the storm has passed through the area our parish president must submit another letter to the governor stating the approximate disaster damage assessment. Then and only then does the governor decide whether federal aide should be dispensed to our area. Of course the governor doesn't make THAT decision, he just submits what was submitted to him and only after he has witnessed the damage himself to confirm it and submit his own assessment along with the parish president's assessment. Media exposure of the disaster area doesn't carry any weight, official letters going through the proper channels is what does.
I've never witnessed FEMA being in a disaster prone area in three to five days, more likely a week. If you aren't prepared it's not because you weren't warned. I mentioned before that storm hit not to underestimate the storm's power because they're so unpredictable, even a CAT 1 can throw many curves. Many of these people chose to ignore all the warnings like they were going on a picnic, well now they're paying the consequences. Sadly, those who found themselves unable to avoid the following outcome must suffer 'cause they were not calling the shots, meaning the children of course.
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