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Post by wtrfwlr on Dec 6, 2012 14:57:51 GMT -7
just bring your own gas for the boat What a party pooper you are woodyz! I was wantin them little un's to learn how to NOT do stuff!!! Ok....maybe some big-un's like me too, huh?
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Post by Lawdog2705 on Dec 6, 2012 17:49:34 GMT -7
Well, do to lack of knowledge on the subject I thought there would be some carry over. I am looking at both. I went to cabelas and looked around but there was tons and tons of equipment and lures and rods and reels and this and that. I eventually said screw it, I don't know 100% what I am even after so I left. Heck walmart overwhelmed me as I have no idea what I am looking at or looking for. I have almost zero knowledge in this area. I took the tact of I will just get a little of everything, but then put it all back as I wasn't sure if I needed any/all of what I had. I am looking at getting each of the kids a small tackle box along with some kind of rod/reel combo. I am not 100% on what I would need/want for the tackle and if I could kill two birds with one stone I thought why not. I figured a rod is a rod, and a reel is a reel, and as I will not be doing any prize fishing or the sort I figured whatever it is that I buy will punch the ticket. What size hooks, what test line, what would be the best lures,etc... is kind of what i was looking for a little guidance. Duckman, my daughter is 4 going on 14 and son is 2 going on 2 1/2 We started our kids out on Zebco's. This is now what my daughter and her husband did as well. My grandaughter was 4 when she started too and with both kids, they did the same...Zebco combos. They LOVE to fish!
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Post by cajunlady87 on Dec 6, 2012 18:38:02 GMT -7
CONGRATULATIONS! You and your family have been selected as today's winner of wtrfwlr's/duckie's/duckman's daily winner!!! Your prize package includes a two day beginners fishing school complete with guide (duckie) his boat, tackle, bait as well as lake shore or river bank lunches and all the basic instruction on how to start a lifetime passion of fishing! All of this will take place at a scenic cypress oxbow lake or river bayou in beautiful Arkansas. Also make note, that after completing your vacation/course you will be taking home with you a lot of the basic skills used to not only catch fish but make sense of all of that 'stuff' at Cabelas or any other tackle shop. Plus you will be able to not only assemble a SHTF fishing kit you will also have some wonderful memories as well as two very happy (albeit tired) kiddos! *The owner/originator/ grand poo bear of this not for profit organization has been made aware of your prize winning status and will be giving you a personal phone call! ** If this prize package is not able to be taken advantage of due to any reason at all please let us know and we will be more than happy to send you a basic tackle kit that should go a long way towards starting you and your family down the lifetime path of the joy's of fishing! Sincerely, Bj/wtrfwlr/duckie/duckman, owner/originator/grand poo bear of....I ain't thought of a good name yet so....whatever! Dang BJ that's mighty generous of you to help out Kutkota like that.
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Post by thywar on Dec 6, 2012 20:34:03 GMT -7
just bring your own gas for the boat And a longer rope for just in case.. but hey.. I have to admit watching Wtrfwlr swim in the Arkansas River in November is memorable.. but yes.. bring your own gas... lol. (Although NOT bringing your own gas definitely adds to that memorable part)
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Post by mud on Dec 6, 2012 22:43:30 GMT -7
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Post by Redneckidokie on Dec 7, 2012 1:27:35 GMT -7
You nailed it Woodyz, survival fishing is totally a different ball game. Out comes the seven bar crank telephone, walnuts, lime, firearms, and 'other', implements of destruction. Nets and seins in shallow water, even pick and shovel to drain ponds. I'm gonna get them fish!!! LOL Survival fishing and pleasure fishing are completly different IMO. Survival I am going to use YoYo's limb lines jug lines poles, trot lines traps nets etc. I like YOYO's in my gear because they can be used for fishing, snaring, tripwire, etc. I have small light weight gill nets, and you can make a trap from a 2 liter bottle. During SHTF minnows become food and guts, heads and tails become bait. For bait use what the fish where you are are already eating, other fish, fish parts, things you see floating, bugs under rocks. Lures are all about color and movement. Pick ones that will sparkel in the sun or move like an injured fish. I have luck using a small piece of jewlery or some links from a small braclet. Also anything that crates a scent trail in the water like the corn, or blood, or WD40, yep I said WD40 spray it on your bait to create a scent trail. In a survival situation I would rig a net bag with fish guts or other animal parts you didn't want to eat yet and let the flies get to it. In a manner of days maggots will form. Hang the bag over the water and let the maggots fall in, the fish will come to them. The little fish will come to the maggots and the big fish will come to the little ones. Under this situation the fish will bite a bare hook, or you can use a net, a small electrical charge or a plant posionous to fish like black walnut hulls. Also remember a small fish and a large fish can both be hooked on a smaller hook but only a large fish can be caught on a large hook. In a survival situation you are after volume not record breakers.
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Post by Redneckidokie on Dec 7, 2012 1:29:50 GMT -7
And don't forget paddles and dry clothes, lunch and a tent. just bring your own gas for the boat And a longer rope for just in case.. but hey.. I have to admit watching Wtrfwlr swim in the Arkansas River in November is memorable.. but yes.. bring your own gas... lol. (Although NOT bringing your own gas definitely adds to that memorable part)
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Post by mud on Dec 7, 2012 1:38:59 GMT -7
I actually have one of those old telephones left to me by my step dad. boy that thing will knock the crap out of you!
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Post by wtrfwlr on Dec 7, 2012 1:43:23 GMT -7
That reminds me of a favorite fishing joke~
Two fellas are out on the lake and the one in the back of the boat pulls out a stick of dynamite and lights the fuse. The guy in front says "What the hell are you doing!" He says "I'm fishin...why?" "You can't do that, that's illegal!!!" Just then the guy in the back throws the lit stick of dynamite to the front of the boat and hollers "Well....what now? Are you gonna call the game warden or fish?"
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Post by Redneckidokie on Dec 7, 2012 3:29:34 GMT -7
I think that is a true story. Back in the 80's when pink mussel shell diving was at its peak, a deputy friend of mine that was a shell diver on the side pulled up two unexploded hand grenades, minus the spoons along an old road fill, where some one had 'fished' in years past. Gives a new meaning to, Fish ON!!!
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Post by pathwinder14 on Dec 7, 2012 7:03:47 GMT -7
I keep it simple in my BOB. Some 12lb string (that's what i had), about a dozen small let split shots, (8) #8 wire hooks, and a couple of small foam bobbers. I also put in a couple of tube jigs (my fav are the blue/white and black/chartreuse). For bait, just about anything will work. That's the same thing I pack. K.I.S.S. I also have a huge fishing gear bag from back when I was waaaayy into fishing. It has lures, weights, hooks, lures, bobbers, lures, etc. I still love fishing, but I rarely use the lures. I always just use bobbers, sinkers, and hooks. Live bait like dug up worms works great.
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Post by missasip on Dec 7, 2012 11:29:37 GMT -7
I follow what this school teaches.... youtu.be/je2hgExZ5woHe doesn't talk about bait, but it's pretty much food scraps or insects/worms on a hook. You could go without the Yo-Yo, just using a throw line or stick rod, but I keep 3 Yo-Yos in my BOB as a force multiplier. I can be off doing other things and still catching fish at the same time. Worth the extra weight IMHO. Key word in SHTF "fishing"...catching. Jimmy
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Post by Lawdog2705 on Dec 7, 2012 12:01:30 GMT -7
I follow what this school teaches.... youtu.be/je2hgExZ5woHe doesn't talk about bait, but it's pretty much food scraps or insects/worms on a hook. You could go without the Yo-Yo, just using a throw line or stick rod, but I keep 3 Yo-Yos in my BOB as a force multiplier. I can be off doing other things and still catching fish at the same time. Worth the extra weight IMHO. Key word in SHTF "fishing"...catching. Jimmy +1!!!
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Post by woodyz on Dec 7, 2012 14:49:16 GMT -7
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