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Post by WILL on Dec 31, 2012 13:00:22 GMT -7
Ban them everywhere. It's only right.  I love that. Pure gold. |
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Post by Sctr22 on Dec 31, 2012 13:27:08 GMT -7
A friend of mine asked me my thoughts on something today and I wanted to get the bunkers opinions as well.
My buddy doesn't have all the money in the world, but he did save up and buy a quality handgun and rifle. Now he's been keeping an eye on all this gun control mess, and decided to ask, depending on how this all plays out...is there a point that one should sell their "high capacity" semi auto firearms to fund...say a revolver and a levergun/shotgun.
In a perfect world, I would say keep what you have and buy the other two just in case, but I can understand his monetary situation. And if it gets to the point where someone wont be permitted under the law to sell their so called "assault weapons", it would make sense to unload them for money to put towards firearms that the masses would deem "safer" instead of losing the investment and not being able to keep them.
Hopefully I conveyed his concern well enough.
So what are the boards thoughts?
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Post by WILL on Dec 31, 2012 13:35:01 GMT -7
A friend of mine asked me my thoughts on something today and I wanted to get the bunkers opinions as well. My buddy doesn't have all the money in the world, but he did save up and buy a quality handgun and rifle. Now he's been keeping an eye on all this gun control mess, and decided to ask, depending on how this all plays out...is there a point that one should sell their "high capacity" semi auto firearms to fund...say a revolver and a levergun/shotgun. In a perfect world, I would say keep what you have and buy the other two just in case, but I can understand his monetary situation. And if it gets to the point where someone wont be permitted under the law to sell their so called "assault weapons", it would make sense to unload them for money to put towards firearms that the masses would deem "safer" instead of losing the investment and not being able to keep them. Hopefully I conveyed his concern well enough. So what are the boards thoughts? That's a great question. I plan on handing mine down to my kids some day since they probably won't be able to buy them. Selling guns for profit isn't really my thing. My guns will NEVER be turned into the government. |
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Post by Cwi555 on Dec 31, 2012 13:45:12 GMT -7
10 years later, when those same people deem the revolver /levergun/shotgun 'unacceptable', what then? The majority of people have a line in the sand they are not willing to cross. Your friend needs to make up his mind where his line in the sand is. A friend of mine asked me my thoughts on something today and I wanted to get the bunkers opinions as well. My buddy doesn't have all the money in the world, but he did save up and buy a quality handgun and rifle. Now he's been keeping an eye on all this gun control mess, and decided to ask, depending on how this all plays out...is there a point that one should sell their "high capacity" semi auto firearms to fund...say a revolver and a levergun/shotgun. In a perfect world, I would say keep what you have and buy the other two just in case, but I can understand his monetary situation. And if it gets to the point where someone wont be permitted under the law to sell their so called "assault weapons", it would make sense to unload them for money to put towards firearms that the masses would deem "safer" instead of losing the investment and not being able to keep them. Hopefully I conveyed his concern well enough. So what are the boards thoughts? |
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Post by woodscustom on Dec 31, 2012 16:32:24 GMT -7
Biden didn't come up with it, so FeindStein's bill will not pass.
WC
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Post by thywar on Jan 4, 2013 21:01:49 GMT -7
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Post by Cwi555 on Jan 4, 2013 22:05:56 GMT -7
Conservatives and folks who prefer to depend on themselves need to start considering leaving that state.
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Post by thywar on Jan 4, 2013 22:17:28 GMT -7
Conservatives and folks who prefer to depend on themselves need to start considering leaving that state. Hmmm which one.. Illinois, Connecticut or New York? And let's not forget the Boston Mayor wants the same thing as Bloomberg... Feinstein is from California.. the idiot governor in CO is pushing.. Good thing Texas is a big state.. it's going to get crowded. |
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Post by crashdive123 on Jan 5, 2013 7:00:49 GMT -7
Conservatives and folks who prefer to depend on themselves need to start considering leaving that state. Hmmm which one.. Illinois, Connecticut or New York? And let's not forget the Boston Mayor wants the same thing as Bloomberg... Feinstein is from California.. the idiot governor in CO is pushing.. Good thing Texas is a big state.. it's going to get crowded. Yes to all of them. |
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Post by crashdive123 on Jan 5, 2013 7:03:00 GMT -7
I did not not vote in the poll - here's why. If we, and all freedom loving Americans do their job and communicate with our elected officials (early and often) I believe that NO gun legislation will pass.
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Post by thywar on Jan 5, 2013 8:22:50 GMT -7
Sounds to me like Detroit has a drug/gang problem not a gun problem. And who knew vacant homes could be a factor in homocides. Of course they bring this back around to the national debate on guns. "At least two-thirds of the homicides in Detroit are related to drug sales, disputes between people selling drugs or disputes between people owing people money about drugs," said David Martin, director of the Urban Safety Program at Wayne State University in Detroit.'' Martin has researched police reports in all parts of the city to examine crime patterns. He says Detroit's police have to develop more effective methods of dealing with the city's drug economy and its consequences. "And that's very difficult," Martin told Yahoo News. Statistically, said Martin, Detroit harbors a range of factors that would contribute to a high homicide rate. The city has a high proportion of young men aged 20-29, he said. That age group accounted for 131 homicide victims and has demographic connections to the drug trade. The number of young men in the city who struggle with dysfunctional families and the high number of vacant homes in Detroit make matters worse. "Groups of thugs have taken over the neighborhoods, and they can do what they please," Martin said. "It's like the Wild West out there."
Possible solutions addressing the homicide problem could be found in working with that age group, Bing said. "We've got to wrap our arms as best we can around these young folks and let them know that when they get into these kinds of situation it doesn't necessitate a gun; it doesn't have to necessitate a fight." news.yahoo.com/detroit-reports-highest-homicide-rate-in-20-years-192557311.html |
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Post by WILL on Jan 5, 2013 8:30:51 GMT -7
Where I'm at with the whole issue right now is I strongly suspect they will ban all future production of high capacity guns and magazines (over 10 rounds). AR 15, AK47, FN-FAL, G3, etc, type weapons platforms will be banned.
I'm conflicted and even apathetic to the issue for several reasons. First, there are probably enough assault weapons in America right now to arm half the country and then some. That doesn't even count non-assault weapons. The citizens of our country have been arming themselves with weapons of war and lots of ammo at an alarming rate for the past few years. Heck, I’m one of them, thus causing the conflicted portion of my feelings.
Second, the crazies are coming out of the woodwork lately, and a good sized chunk of American ain’t moral, upright, hard working angels these days, if you know what I mean. As a matter of fact, I would say America is significantly morally challenged, and I have all but lost faith in my fellow American, especially in a time of crisis.
Besides that, everyone knows some type of mass civil unrest/ financial reckoning is coming. Everyone. The whole situation is a friggin' powder keg and serious blood is going to flow over it, probably sooner than later.
I can't be the only one doing the math on this phenomenon. I kinda feel like, “Hey, I got my guns, we can shut it down now.” I know that’s selfish and hypocritical, but I can see the writing on the wall, and the more of these assault weapons ammo and high cap magazines out there, the harder the fall will be to survive and rebuild from. I guess it’s the same feeling of self preservation and survival that draws me to this site that makes me very leery of the saturation of America with arms that’s happening right now.
The bottom line is that I will always support the second amendment and vote for gun rights. Unfortunately, I believe my actions will ultimately come home to roost, probably killing me and/or my family in the long run. That’s freedom for you.
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Post by thywar on Jan 5, 2013 8:48:43 GMT -7
Crash is absolutely correct.. we as citizens have to write/call our legislators (and do the same for your local/state reps.. if states pass laws guaranteeing the rights as outlined in the second ammendment that puts us a step ahead.. unlike those idiots in IL) and DEMAND that they not take away any of our rights. You can't tell me anti gunners will be fine if some maniac kills 20 children with four five-round magazines. It isn't the device.. it's the unstable person behind it.
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Post by missasip on Jan 5, 2013 9:13:49 GMT -7
Where I'm at with the whole issue right now is I strongly suspect they will ban all future production of high capacity guns and magazines (over 10 rounds). AR 15, AK47, FN-FAL, G3, etc, type weapons platforms will be banned. I'm conflicted and even apathetic to the issue for several reasons. First, there are probably enough assault weapons in America right now to arm half the country and then some. That doesn't even count non-assault weapons. The citizens of our country have been arming themselves with weapons of war and lots of ammo at an alarming rate for the past few years. Heck, I’m one of them, thus causing the conflicted portion of my feelings. Second, the crazies are coming out of the woodwork lately, and a good sized chunk of American ain’t moral, upright, hard working angels these days, if you know what I mean. As a matter of fact, I would say America is significantly morally challenged, and I have all but lost faith in my fellow American, especially in a time of crisis. Besides that, everyone knows some type of mass civil unrest/ financial reckoning is coming. Everyone. The whole situation is a friggin' powder keg and serious blood is going to flow over it, probably sooner than later. I can't be the only one doing the math on this phenomenon. I kinda feel like, “Hey, I got my guns, we can shut it down now.” I know that’s selfish and hypocritical, but I can see the writing on the wall, and the more of these assault weapons ammo and high cap magazines out there, the harder the fall will be to survive and rebuild from. I guess it’s the same feeling of self preservation and survival that draws me to this site that makes me very leery of the saturation of America with arms that’s happening right now. The bottom line is that I will always support the second amendment and vote for gun rights. Unfortunately, I believe my actions will ultimately come home to roost, probably killing me and/or my family in the long run. That’s freedom for you. I'm sure George Washington and ole Ben Franklin felt the same way. All those people with their muskets have to be dangerous….now that the war is over.... Along with the veterans from how many wars? Yep. We got it done so to heck with the rest of you....right  Freedom has always had expenditures that we don’t like or want to have to deal with. It comes down to each of us have a stake in it or it fails. They will NOT get my guns. And I have already emailed my congressman and Senators to not pass ANY sort of gun control measures. If myself and my family have to sacrifice, then so be it. Jimmy |
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Post by wtrfwlr on Jan 5, 2013 9:23:29 GMT -7
Where I'm at with the whole issue right now is I strongly suspect they will ban all future production of high capacity guns and magazines (over 10 rounds). AR 15, AK47, FN-FAL, G3, etc, type weapons platforms will be banned. Ahh, this oughta be another wonderfully entertaining battle to watch. Not only ban the sale and ownership of certain weapons but the Fed. is going to DICTATE which products American manufacturing can produce. I have not heard of a manufacture ban before although as I have said, I'm far from the sharpest tool in the shed. I wonder what they are going to tell the Dept. of Defense or Police Depts. across this new kinder gentler landscape of ours in regards to this, no longer being able to purchase their preferred "tools of their trade?" How are they going to explain to our allies and so called 'freedom fighters' across the globe that we will no longer supply them weapons as we have always done in the past? I wonder how that is going to boost our job numbers when gun manufacturers are forced to shut down their large and profitable production lines forcing untold large numbers into the unemployment lines? Yes indeed this going to be quite the show to watch when he shuts down production of these weapons too. Whats he going to tell the drug lords and cartels in Mexico? "We're gonna start sending you guys side by side shotguns and 700BDL's from here on out? |
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