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Post by geron on Mar 27, 2013 15:54:56 GMT -7
I came into about 600 pieces of .40 brass (Once fired). Out of the 600 I have about 35 that want fit into the case holder.
Are they trash or is there a trick to get them into the case holder?
All of them are Winchester brass.
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Post by kutkota on Mar 27, 2013 16:40:37 GMT -7
What are you referring to as the case holder.
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Post by geron on Mar 27, 2013 16:57:38 GMT -7
Shellholder: ;D  |
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Post by kutkota on Mar 27, 2013 17:06:42 GMT -7
Gotcha. I have never had that happen. Are you 100 percent you are using the correct one?
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Post by kutkota on Mar 27, 2013 17:15:20 GMT -7
Make sure you use case lube if it is needed. I am in the mddle of drilling and taping and backing out a .223 case.
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Post by Underground on Mar 27, 2013 19:07:29 GMT -7
You should be using a number 19 shell holder. (AT least thats the number on Lee). If your dies are carbide, you don't need to lube. And 100% of your cases should fit the shell holder. If not theres a problem. Wrong holder, not 40 brass, ect.....
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Post by Cwi555 on Mar 28, 2013 2:18:46 GMT -7
They should fit like the others. Suggest using dial calipers to verify their dimensions.
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Post by Redneckidokie on Mar 28, 2013 2:29:42 GMT -7
Check your primers and see if they are blown out, or bulged enough to prevent them from sliding in. 40 is notorious for that, especially if fired in a glock.  Maybe a pic of one that won't fit? |
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Post by hunter63 on Mar 28, 2013 13:31:08 GMT -7
Check your primers and see if they are blown out, or bulged enough to prevent them from sliding in. 40 is notorious for that, especially if fired in a glock. Maybe a pic of one that won't fit? Agree....primer sticking out is the only time I have had a problem fitting it in the "shell holder".....case sizing die is a whole 'nother story,... particularly if they are fired from different guns. Picked up some 7mm mag brass at the range, loaded them with a Lee Loader, which does not size the whole case, just the neck...they wouldn't chamber or stick in my rifle. Pulled the bullets, powder, sized/trimmed the case, and loaded back up...They were fine. If anything is hinky inside the chamber case may 'fire form" to the imperfection. Verify caliber, or check with micrometer, shoud fit. |
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Post by kutkota on Mar 28, 2013 14:41:44 GMT -7
I wasn't trying to be a jerk. I call all my little gadgets something other than the techincal name. Did you get it to work?
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Post by geron on Mar 28, 2013 17:46:16 GMT -7
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Post by Underground on Mar 28, 2013 18:07:39 GMT -7
Check your primers and see if they are blown out, or bulged enough to prevent them from sliding in. 40 is notorious for that, especially if fired in a glock. Maybe a pic of one that won't fit? I'm not sure about how "notorious" 40s are for this. First time I've ever heard of it (which doesn't mean anything, but I've been on numerous reloading forums, reloading sites, read books, ect and NONE have mentioned this) I've deprimed 2400+ rounds of 40 and NOT ONE had a blown out or bulged primer. The only thing I've ever heard about 40s and Glocks is the case bulge because of the design of the chamber. It's enough of a problem, Redding makes a die just for this. I would think that primer blowout or bulge would be caused by some other problem and would be dangerous. |
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Post by hunter63 on Mar 29, 2013 8:46:53 GMT -7
Check your primers and see if they are blown out, or bulged enough to prevent them from sliding in. 40 is notorious for that, especially if fired in a glock. Maybe a pic of one that won't fit? I'm not sure about how "notorious" 40s are for this. First time I've ever heard of it (which doesn't mean anything, but I've been on numerous reloading forums, reloading sites, read books, ect and NONE have mentioned this) I've deprimed 2400+ rounds of 40 and NOT ONE had a blown out or bulged primer. The only thing I've ever heard about 40s and Glocks is the case bulge because of the design of the chamber. It's enough of a problem, Redding makes a die just for this. I would think that primer blowout or bulge would be caused by some other problem and would be dangerous. Since the invent of the interweb, one posting may become "bible' till the end of time. Never heard of of .40's being "notorious" either, but don't shoot a glock or 40 either for that matter..... More importantly bulging primers are an indicator of a serious problem with load, gun, or case....and should be addressed ASAP, what ever the reason. |
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Post by geron on Mar 29, 2013 10:34:51 GMT -7
Didn't mean fer the OP to go this fer. Jus had a "burr under my saddle."
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Post by woodyz on Mar 29, 2013 18:18:31 GMT -7
Just as a clarification, because I may have heard what I read wrong.
I don't think there would be anyway a "proper" case wouldn't go into the "proper" holder except for a bur on the base of the case or on the holder.
And it appears that is exactly what the problem was, a bur on the holder.
First I don't understand why you drilled out the hole that resulted in the bur?
Second is my main question or clarification. I have had plenty of primers bulge or blow part way out when shooting reloaded shells. Mostly caused by the reloader changing the amount of powder in a reloaded shell and getting it a little too hot.
So unless I don't get it there are two possibilities where a primer might cause a problem seating in the shell holder.
One someone loaded the shell too hot and it bulged the primer. Two the primer wasn't seated properly when it was set.
geron indicated it was once fired brass which would indicate either a factory load or new brass reloaded. I would never expect the problem from factory loaded brass. But new brass reloaded and shot once could have bulged or could have had a bur in the brass hole and not seated or could have just not seated and caused this type of problem.
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