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Post by fenster on May 10, 2013 8:09:30 GMT -7
I asked a basic question. Should absolutely anyone in the US be allowed a weapon? Yes or no? As long as they don't harm anyone with it, yes. Or if they've harmed someone in the past. |
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Post by fallkniven on May 10, 2013 8:10:46 GMT -7
I asked a basic question. Should absolutely anyone in the US be allowed a weapon? Yes or no? As long as they don't harm anyone with it, yes. Or if they've harmed someone in the past. So not everyone, which needs to be regulated, hence this happened. That's what I was getting at before. |
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Post by ColcordMama on May 10, 2013 8:59:51 GMT -7
As long as they don't harm anyone with it, yes. Or if they've harmed someone in the past. So not everyone, which needs to be regulated, hence this happened. That's what I was getting at before. The key is "regulated" and by extension the regulatee. I'm not nearly as bright as some here who I'm sure can quote at length chapter and verse on our freedoms, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that you are trying to light a fuse here. Not a good idea. |
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Post by sirderrin on May 10, 2013 9:02:43 GMT -7
Define weapon? You can use practically anything as a weapon. 3d printing of a weapon is in the same lines as having a machine shop and constructing one from scratch as far as I am concern.... Specialized skills and tools are needed to make anything beyond a zip gun, so it is a pointless argument. I asked a basic question. Should absolutely anyone in the US be allowed a weapon? Yes or no? |
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Post by kutkota on May 10, 2013 11:01:45 GMT -7
So not everyone, which needs to be regulated, hence this happened. That's what I was getting at before. The key is "regulated" and by extension the regulatee. I'm not nearly as bright as some here who I'm sure can quote at length chapter and verse on our freedoms, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that you are trying to light a fuse here. Not a good idea. Fallkniven, when I see thywar commenting on your actions it perked my ears up, when I saw CWI555 I thought hmmm ok, he is kind of the enforcer around these parts, when I have now witness CGU, comment I was like dang, ol' boys having a rough go, if Cmama is telling you to lay low, you might want to do it. I can count the number of times Cmama has said anything to anyone on laying low on ONE finger!!! If you are not trying to stir the pot you might want to provide your view points and try to stay in one common theme. You can not be for and against everything. Of course if you are just trying to be a stirrer of pots, stick around because you are about to become the pot you are stirring. I appreciate that you come from a different view points on many things political, and I welcome any discussion on any number of topics. You however take the opposining view points on everything, even if you have agreed with it in the past. Perhaps you are a politician in training and you don't even know it yet.  |
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Post by woodyz on May 10, 2013 13:19:22 GMT -7
Does anyone have any test data on how well the large capacity magazines made using the same process works?
Overall the concept is interesting and out on the edge, I can see the goberment agencies of any country having the resources and the use for such, but it's a long way off for any mainstream applications. Injection molding is much cheaper and already here.
This isn't worth the cost or effort yet, IMHO.
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Post by Cwi555 on May 10, 2013 15:13:20 GMT -7
Does anyone have any test data on how well the large capacity magazines made using the same process works? Overall the concept is interesting and out on the edge, I can see the goberment agencies of any country having the resources and the use for such, but it's a long way off for any mainstream applications. Injection molding is much cheaper and already here. This isn't worth the cost or effort yet, IMHO. I consider myself up to speed on this tech. Semi/Auto magazines of any kind have a high failure rate past 300 rounds. You are correct that injection molding tech is much cheaper and a better product (currently). This technology is no different than any other, it will have growing pains. Ten years from now it will be a totally different story. However, ten years from now (assuming we reach that as a nation), this tech will be severely regulated. |
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Post by thywar on May 13, 2013 17:08:12 GMT -7
This is an interesting commentary.. The Feds Fall for a Plastic GunThis isn’t the first time ITAR has been used to prevent the promulgation of information: until 1997, for example, strong cryptography could not be legally exported from the U.S. The strange thing about the invocation of ITAR in this case is that the information ostensibly being guarded is for relatively low tech weaponry. Other than the fact that the gun in question is made almost entirely of plastic, it’s essentially an artifact of 19th century technology. Anyone with a mechanical engineering background, a credit card, and access to a hardware store could build a comparable firearm. The Liberator, as Wilson has christened the gun, is unreliable, inaccurate, and flimsy compared to a typical modern handgun. It’s as if the federal government suddenly decided to crack down on sites explaining how to make your own musket. What’s so special in this case is not the technology inherent in the weapon; it’s the technology used to distribute that technology. The feds are essentially saying that the problem isn’t what’s being distributed; it’s how it’s being distributed. And that’s where you run into a problem. I’m not a lawyer, but I’m fairly confident that ITAR is only concerned with the what, not the how. If I send information on enriching plutonium to Syria, I’m going to be in a lot of trouble whether I send it by email or courier pigeon. But what if I email instructions for building a musket out of PVC pipe to a friend in London? To be consistent with their apparent position on distributing plastic gun technology, the government would have to claim that my email is a violation of ITAR. And suddenly every Civil War reenactment group with a Facebook page is a potential den of international criminals. www.theblaze.com/contributions/the-feds-fall-for-a-plastic-gun/ |
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