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Post by thywar on Sept 10, 2013 20:32:48 GMT -7
The Colorado Senate President, a Democrat has conceded and has been recalled. The citizens in his district have voted him out of office.. The PRESIDENT OF THE STATE SENATE!!!! A yes vote is FOR recall.. looks like (even though the numbers below don't reflect it) the female senator Giron, may hold onto her seat in a very heavily democratic district.
COLORADO SPRINGS — With about 86 percent of returns counted in the historic recall election of Democratic Senate President John Morse show 52 percent have voted "yes" and 48 percent "no."
The new results as of 9 p.m. are not good for Morse as about 2,500 votes still need to be counted — a margin that leaves him little room for error.
The returns posted by the El Paso County Clerk and Recorder show that about 15,300 votes have been counted out of about 17,800 votes cast.
The unofficial results come in after months of legal spats, millions of dollars in donations and a barrage of intense TV and radio advertisements.
Morse, a Colorado Springs Democrat, is the subject of the recall for his leadership
Recall Results 2013
Ballot Issue State Senate 3 - Recall Giron
25% reporting
Yes 56.9% (5,476)
No 43.0% (4,137)
Ballot Issue State Senate 11 - Recall Morse
83% reporting
Yes 52.3% (8,014)
No 47.6% (7,288)
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Post by Cwi555 on Sept 11, 2013 4:15:41 GMT -7
They need to go after the rest of the liberals in that state next.
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Post by sirderrin on Sept 11, 2013 6:48:55 GMT -7
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Post by kutkota on Sept 11, 2013 6:57:34 GMT -7
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Post by thywar on Sept 11, 2013 7:39:03 GMT -7
They both were recalled. Outstanding.. and the line at the bottom of the article I read today put it very succinctly.. If only they had listened to their constituents in the beginning instead of following Washington's lead there wouldn't have been a recall election.
Missouri has a tough road with the democratic governor. I hope they can override his vetoes. They need to stand up to idiotic injustice against the constitution.
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Post by Cwi555 on Sept 11, 2013 10:37:52 GMT -7
They both were recalled. Outstanding.. and the line at the bottom of the article I read today put it very succinctly.. If only they had listened to their constituents in the beginning instead of following Washington's lead there wouldn't have been a recall election. Missouri has a tough road with the democratic governor. I hope they can override his vetoes. They need to stand up to idiotic injustice against the constitution. Looks like the good folks of Colorado not only flew the flag on them, they buried them in it.  |
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Post by thywar on Sept 11, 2013 14:52:18 GMT -7
Where's that BS flag CWI?? I think this guy is full of it.... he thinks the recall was only because the NRA message was stronger about gun rights than "If voters made their decision based on the actual pretty unobtrusive laws that Giron helped get passed, she likely would have survived." How stupid... and he has no faith in his own company's ability to poll evidently. A polling company claims to have nailed part of the recall election in Colorado in which two state lawmakers were recalled after backing new gun control measures, but didn't publish the results because it didn't believe them. Public Policy Polling, a liberal-leaning North Carolina-based firm whose website touts "highly accurate polling across the country," says its weekend survey predicted that state Sen. Angela Giron, of Pueblo, would be recalled. Giron and state Senate President John Morse, both Democrats, were indeed recalled in the Tuesday vote, which was prompted by their support for new gun measures in the wake of the Aurora movie massacre. Unofficial results had Giron losing, 56 percent to 44 percent -- the exact margin Public Policy Polling's Dean Debnam says his firm's poll predicted. "We did a poll last weekend in Colorado Senate District 3 and found that voters intended to recall Angela Giron by a 12 point margin, 54/42," Debnam wrote on the firm's website. "In a district that Barack Obama won by almost 20 points I figured there was no way that could be right and made a rare decision not to release the poll. It turns out we should have had more faith in our numbers because she was indeed recalled by 12 points." Debnam's Public Policy Polling was founded in 2001, and often does work for candidates. But he said the firm decided on its own to poll the Griron recall because it was the first legislative recall election in Colorado history. In a post mortem crunching of the numbers, Debnam said he found voters actually backed the gun control measures that prompted the recall effort, including expanded background checks and limits on the capacity of rifle magazines. But he also noted that the district's voters approved of the National Rifle Association by a 53-33 margin. "And I think when you see the final results what that indicates is they just did a good job of turning the election more broadly into do you support gun rights or are you opposed to them," Debnam wrote on his company's website. "If voters made their decision based on the actual pretty unobtrusive laws that Giron helped get passed, she likely would have survived. But the NRA won the messaging game and turned it into something bigger than it was -- even if that wasn't true -- and Giron paid the price." Read more: www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/11/polling-company-nails-colorado-recall-but-doesnt-trust-its-results/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fpolitics+%28Internal+-+Politics+-+Text%29#ixzz2echXrWDw |
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Post by Cwi555 on Sept 11, 2013 15:27:42 GMT -7
They didn't believe the results for a reason. Their poll was designed to elicit a response that would have been favorable to their view. Despite the slant in the poll, it still came back negative for them. Here's the catch. Anyone can say they predicted something 'after the fact'. PPP is well known for stacking the deck. polling questions.recall poll"PPP director Tom Jensen wrote that some of the conflicting data points made him decide not to release the poll. He had sound reasoning: In a district that Barack Obama won by almost 20 points I figured there was no way that could be right and made a rare decision not to release the poll." So yes, PPP definitely earns a BS flag. Where's that BS flag CWI?? I think this guy is full of it.... he thinks the recall was only because the NRA message was stronger about gun rights than "If voters made their decision based on the actual pretty unobtrusive laws that Giron helped get passed, she likely would have survived." How stupid... and he has no faith in his own company's ability to poll evidently. A polling company claims to have nailed part of the recall election in Colorado in which two state lawmakers were recalled after backing new gun control measures, but didn't publish the results because it didn't believe them. Public Policy Polling, a liberal-leaning North Carolina-based firm whose website touts "highly accurate polling across the country," says its weekend survey predicted that state Sen. Angela Giron, of Pueblo, would be recalled. Giron and state Senate President John Morse, both Democrats, were indeed recalled in the Tuesday vote, which was prompted by their support for new gun measures in the wake of the Aurora movie massacre. Unofficial results had Giron losing, 56 percent to 44 percent -- the exact margin Public Policy Polling's Dean Debnam says his firm's poll predicted. "We did a poll last weekend in Colorado Senate District 3 and found that voters intended to recall Angela Giron by a 12 point margin, 54/42," Debnam wrote on the firm's website. "In a district that Barack Obama won by almost 20 points I figured there was no way that could be right and made a rare decision not to release the poll. It turns out we should have had more faith in our numbers because she was indeed recalled by 12 points." Debnam's Public Policy Polling was founded in 2001, and often does work for candidates. But he said the firm decided on its own to poll the Griron recall because it was the first legislative recall election in Colorado history. In a post mortem crunching of the numbers, Debnam said he found voters actually backed the gun control measures that prompted the recall effort, including expanded background checks and limits on the capacity of rifle magazines. But he also noted that the district's voters approved of the National Rifle Association by a 53-33 margin. "And I think when you see the final results what that indicates is they just did a good job of turning the election more broadly into do you support gun rights or are you opposed to them," Debnam wrote on his company's website. "If voters made their decision based on the actual pretty unobtrusive laws that Giron helped get passed, she likely would have survived. But the NRA won the messaging game and turned it into something bigger than it was -- even if that wasn't true -- and Giron paid the price." Read more: www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/11/polling-company-nails-colorado-recall-but-doesnt-trust-its-results/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fpolitics+%28Internal+-+Politics+-+Text%29#ixzz2echXrWDw |
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Post by USCGME2 on Sept 11, 2013 20:16:08 GMT -7
Wow! What a day for the 2A. See what happens when a base galvonizes and leaders lead? GO MO! Show Me a new trail blazed  |
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Post by sirderrin on Sept 12, 2013 6:20:34 GMT -7
We need to remember what California is doing as well.... they are trying to ban almost all semi auto rifles ..... The fight goes on  |
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Post by thywar on Sept 12, 2013 6:48:38 GMT -7
Well Missouri failed by one vote to override the governor's veto. On a happier note gun registration in Chicago (since 1968) is over with news.yahoo.com/chicago-abolishes-gun-register-place-since-1968-191119536.html "We're glad the Chicago firearm registration is gone," said Richard Pearson, executive director of the Illinois State Rifle Association, the local affiliate of the NRA. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2010, in a case challenging Chicago's gun restrictions, that every state and city must adhere to the Second Amendment. The ruling did not strike down the Chicago restrictions directly, but sent the case back to a U.S. appeals court for review. In December 2012, the appeals court ruled that Illinois's ban on concealed carry was unconstitutional and gave the state six months to create a law allowing guns to be carried in public. Illinois approved a concealed carry law in July, giving control of gun regulations to the state and essentially nullifying Chicago's power to require that gun owners register their weapons and have a city firearms permit. The measures approved by a voice vote on Wednesday complied with the new state law. In addition to eliminating the gun registry, the measures eliminated the requirement for gun owners to have a Chicago firearm permit. |
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Post by Ceorlmann on Sept 12, 2013 7:29:36 GMT -7
Best part of that was reading Rahm's whiny response to the end of the gun registration requirement.
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Post by thywar on Sept 12, 2013 15:30:46 GMT -7
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Post by USCGME2 on Sept 12, 2013 20:26:35 GMT -7
Typical lefty delusional reaction. It couldnt possibly be her ass backward policies, it had to be voter supression! Couldn't be the stance on unconstitutional 2A measures, there is no way they know what's best for them better than her. Its so unfair! Go away and suck on the bitter lemon of defeat you commie-liberal-Constitution hating-tax and spend-know nothing sore azz looser! Go home and stay there Ms Giron, Colorado will be better for it. "Liberalism is a mental disorder." -Michael Savage |
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Post by Ceorlmann on Sept 12, 2013 20:43:26 GMT -7
Go home and stay there Ms Giron, Colorado will be better for it. "Liberalism is a mental disorder." -Michael Savage Better yet: move out of Colorado and never come back. |
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