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Post by thywar on Sept 14, 2013 17:20:10 GMT -7
Interesting article about some who decided to stay even though they were told it could be weeks before electricity and other services were available. Something tells me these people were prepared ahead of time (I had enough beer for a year) to make it through.. and living that remotely they should be I think. BOULDER, Colo. (AP) — Special education teacher Brian Shultz, 38, was torn about leaving his home in the face of Colorado’s devastating flood. “I was thinking about staying. I could have lasted at least a year,” he said. “I have a lot of training in wilderness survival.” Schultz added that he probably had enough beer to last the whole time as well. As he sat outside a makeshift shelter at a high school, Shultz floated the idea of walking back into his funky mountain community of Jamestown. “If we hike back, I would stay there and just live,” he said. “I’d rather be at our own house than staying at some other people’s houses.” www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/09/14/some-flood-ravaged-colorado-residents-opt-to-stay-even-as-rescuers-warn-of-weeks-without-power-basic-supplies/
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Post by Ceorlmann on Sept 19, 2013 20:18:28 GMT -7
If my band got caught out there I know myself and a few others would've been fairly active in helping out however we could. We've been talking about it since the flooding via Facebook.
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Post by angelhelp on Sept 20, 2013 3:15:17 GMT -7
Airborne & I had a similar chat yesterday afternoon while walking in the park. We'd have listened to the weather reports and, given that our house is the first to have water breach the basement, we'd have stayed provided the rain was due to end. The CO rain did not end, though, and we agreed that given another Hurricane Floyd situation (our only basis for a bugout-level flood), we'd have left. The next time we have what is best described as a flash flood (due to overflow and downhill flow of a local pond), we will depart. Our benchmark is at the first sign of flash flood. There's just no telling if the house would remain intact. The upside is that we'd have plenty of warning.
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Post by cajunlady87 on Sept 20, 2013 3:38:30 GMT -7
If my home was located in that area and not in danger of being washed away by mudslides, rammed by other floating homes or a barrage of fallen trees I'd definitely stay behind. My preps would hold me up plus I have a boat if I needed to leave.
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Post by angelhelp on Sept 20, 2013 3:55:31 GMT -7
Same here. I'm just not certain the house could withstand another Floyd event or worse.
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Post by cajunlady87 on Sept 20, 2013 4:21:32 GMT -7
Same here. I'm just not certain the house could withstand another Floyd event or worse. Hmm, you'd be surprised what your home could withstand during a hurricane. I've witnessed newer homes being totally destroyed by them while little eek and meek ones stayed standing not even losing a roof shingle. Wind blockages may help spare your home from gusting winds. Tornadic activity will take any building down or cause severe damage but they sometimes skip around in their paths leaving one building up and taking down every building surrounding it.
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Post by cajunlady87 on Sept 20, 2013 6:13:59 GMT -7
If my home was located in that area and not in danger of being washed away by mudslides, rammed by other floating homes or a barrage of fallen trees I'd definitely stay behind. My preps would hold me up plus I have a boat if I needed to leave. After posting this reply another thought came to mind which caused me to reconsider staying behind for an extended period in such a situation. I have been in situations where flooding has occurred and surrounded my homes, yes more than one home. The other homes were resting much closer to the ground and I didn't have electricity for an extended period of time. Of all of those times accept one, my current home, all roadways to get in and out were cleared if a medical emergency arose. As to my current home, after Hurricane Rita it's the one I walked in chest deep water to get to for more meds for my DH as he had a heart condition and why we stayed away. The road to get to my home had at least a foot and a half of water covering it so medical emergencies would've been a problem. We did return home with eighteen inches of water still present in the yard but all the roadways were cleared, we took a chance coming home before the flooding in our yard had completely subsided. So yes I would evacuate for that important reason. Any personal items looters help themselves to will leave you hurt and totally ticked off. Most of those items can be replaced but none of it is worth jeopardizing your life for.
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Post by USCGME2 on Sept 21, 2013 5:09:42 GMT -7
I have responded to several flood ops including Katrina. CL is right, and Id listen to anyone who lives in her part of Cajun country. They know a little bit about living on the water! . The one thing I learned about floods - build on high ground. If you don't, prep accordingly. One really good rule of thumb, if water is flowing over a road, do NOT, repeat DO NOT, try to drive thru it. As much as 6 inches of water can sweep you away and into real trouble.
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Post by cajunlady87 on Sept 21, 2013 5:49:59 GMT -7
I have to comment on pics of children being allowed to play in flood waters. It's a common sight even in my area and cause me to cringe when I look at them. What ever happened to "common sense", yes there's those little two words again but they pack a hard meaning behind them. Do the parents not realize the dangers they're allowing their children to play in and the multitude of germs floating around in those waters. Raw sewage is the very first thing that comes to mind. It's like splashing around in a toilet bowl. Yuck! All it takes is a minor scratch for these germs to enter a child's body and they are in serious trouble. Then the parents wonder why their child is sick. Duh! Trained rescuers are up to date on their shots and wear appropriate gear to combat those nasties. And I know for a fact if they had a choice they'd rather be on dry ground doing other things rather than walking through "toxic gumbos" as we call them. Hats off to all these rescuers in our times of need.
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Post by angelhelp on Sept 21, 2013 7:46:22 GMT -7
Common sense is all but extinct. I can point to so many parents who will lose both their children and their own lives due to a complete lack of common sense. Too many poorly conceived laws protect these folks from much of their own stupidity. Driving with toddlers who are not only completely unrestrained, but whose entire upper bodies are hanging out the car window so they can scream and wave at their friends as mom drives away from (tax-funded and "free") all-day preschool is but one example that I see daily. Flooded roads here would instantly be viewed as a suitable place for kids to play in the water, unsupervised of course, because mom "has" to be on the phone (it's her only time since the kids play with it the rest of the time).
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Post by missasip on Sept 27, 2013 18:48:02 GMT -7
Well where I'm at now, if I get flooded, everyone will be flooded. I'm under a hill, facing south pretty much. The closest branch is over 1 mile away. I've already had 4 inch rain back in July. 30 minutes after it was over you could not tell it had rained. Wind would be my enemy...
Jimmy
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Post by Cwi555 on Sept 27, 2013 19:15:01 GMT -7
There is a lot of what if thought processing in the op question. Preppers/survivalist to a large degree usually have thought such things through. What they have a tendency to miss, are in the things abnormal to their usual environment. Someone from the front range of the rockies, is not as likely to have thought through the prospect of flooding as well as someone on a coastal/hurricane area such as CL and others here have.
It is my opinion that the cognitive lesson to learn from the Colorado floods and last years hurricane Sandy, is to never assume your area is immune to any given natural or man made disaster simply by virtue of geographic location.
Any Viable plan must start with critical thinking as free from assumptions as you can make it.
My 2¢ worth
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