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Post by ccove on Mar 18, 2014 9:15:27 GMT -7
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Post by USCGME2 on Mar 18, 2014 9:57:23 GMT -7
Cool
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Post by Cwi555 on Mar 18, 2014 14:34:32 GMT -7
Could be useful in an emergency.
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Post by marc on Mar 18, 2014 16:14:35 GMT -7
WOW! THAT explains what happened to my house when I had this big party back in '71......
I can assure you that I learned the fine art of mudding and taping before the landlord stopped by!
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Post by angelhelp on Mar 18, 2014 16:24:44 GMT -7
Couldn't do that in our house!
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Post by cajunlady87 on Mar 19, 2014 6:16:08 GMT -7
Could be useful in an emergency. Agree. I watched a safety program focusing on fires in multi-story buildings. It showed a person breaking drywall on the side walls to get to adjoining rooms as an escape route. This adds another option and thank you for posting it.
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Post by thywar on Mar 19, 2014 6:25:14 GMT -7
I'm not so sure that would work for someone like me. I guess the positive is I can touch or almost touch most ceilings so it would be short climb. I'd need to be on either side of a wall stud for more support
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Post by cajunlady87 on Mar 19, 2014 6:53:28 GMT -7
I'm not so sure that would work for someone like me. I guess the positive is I can touch or almost touch most ceilings so it would be short climb. I'd need to be on either side of a wall stud for more support You may be able to straddle the inside of two studs to give you the extra umph and height to do so. If that doesn't work do like I do, look for an item in the room to stand on so you'll have added height leverage.
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Post by orly152 on Mar 20, 2014 21:02:08 GMT -7
Or you can always use one of these with a bucket if you need that extra foot
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Post by Cwi555 on Mar 21, 2014 15:32:03 GMT -7
I'm not so sure that would work for someone like me. I guess the positive is I can touch or almost touch most ceilings so it would be short climb. I'd need to be on either side of a wall stud for more support I doubt your much taller than I am (6'4"), so unless your 7' or something extreme like that, I'll use my own dimensions for example that should apply to you. The problem isn't climbing, it's getting through for passage into another room. The old standard was 16" on center, with the new standard being 24" on center for residential. . ICCThat's for the typical first level exterior wall. It will leave you with 14.5" between studs. That's not a lot of room for a big guy. Then there are interior 'non-load bearing' walls. You can see those upwards of 18-24" on center. Those you could get through, but the 16" on center becomes a problem because of the cross bracing. If there is a cross brace, it can present problems for folks trying to knock holes in the wall to go from one room to another (see page 23 of the ICC link). In all, it would be a good idea to know ahead of time what the general building code is, and have a stud finder with you if your traveling. The latter is important if your staying in hotels etc. They are relatively cheap at most hardware stores, and make a good item to have around in case of trouble wherever it is your staying. 5 minutes can map your room giving you an idea of spacing and if you can get through or not. It's another animal if your in a building that uses metal studs(more modern), as they can be destroyed with relative ease once you break away a few of the screws. You must exercise caution though as it's important to remember the metal versions typically run wall wire higher than the wood versions. It also helps to mock up at home. Mocking up walls is cheap on the whole, but can save your bacon in the long run.
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Post by marc on Mar 21, 2014 16:06:24 GMT -7
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Post by hunter63 on Apr 4, 2014 19:32:26 GMT -7
Or you can always use one of these with a bucket if you need that extra foot OSHA approved ladder I see....LOL I can see where this can be a great idea....flood waters coming in....yeah maybe fire..... Thanks for posting.
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Post by hunter63 on Apr 5, 2014 8:49:08 GMT -7
On a job site,....sprinklers fitters were doing some high work in the top of a green house. They had a man lift, but didn't go up high enough....so one of the guys had a 2X8 plank across the hand rails and was standing on it.
OSHA guy was driving by....saw him thru the windows, (green house all glass)....site boss wouldn't let him in, and sent everyone on site home.....so as to not to get fined.
Back the next day with the proper height lift.
Yeah I notice stuff like the bucket on the ladder.
But if it was do or die......bring that bucket here!
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Post by westtexas on Apr 22, 2014 17:30:47 GMT -7
Also, be careful of what I always called motel wall. I'm sure it has a proper name but no clue what it is. In most apartments or motels on a common or shared wall the builders will use a 2x6 top and bottom plate with regular 2x4 studs, on 24" centers, but staggered on each side. It keeps the noise transmission down since there's no wood that touches both sides, makes a gap. Very cool for privacy but in reality you end up with an 11" gap to try to squeeze through, and thicker drywall as required by fire code. Something to consider when you're in one of those types of rooms
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Post by woodyz on Apr 23, 2014 17:54:03 GMT -7
If you were trying/needing to escape the room.......OK, but for a fire? ?? I don't know, the heat and the smoke are going to go up, and most time the fire will get to the ceiling and cross through the attic area, punching a hole in the ceiling would let it come down into the room. I can see how a fire fighter might want to use the process to get to the fire above but in my humble opinion, in a fire you want to stay low, not go up. Knowing where and how to quickly break through the wall is definitely a good idea, but I would break a hole at ground level big enough to get through. Also until the electric is shut off or burns through I would be cautious of the wiring, romex will have a plastic coating on most of it and commercial buildings should have the wire inside a plastic or metal pipe. The whole piping system could contain a charge if the electric makes contact with metal. Not saying the technic isn't good to know, just saying there is a need to know additional things to consider at the same time.
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