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Post by marc on May 21, 2014 18:26:40 GMT -7
I was at the Walmart ammo counter at 7:30 AM on Friday morning looking for some .357 magnum JHP or JSP.
The guy ahead of me was buying his three-box limit of Winchester black box M22 .22lr in 1,000 round bricks, and his wife and their son were doing the same, so they were buying 9,000 rounds. Evidently, they got there at 5:30 AM to wait for the ammo to me shelved. During the 2nd payment process, the customer asked the clerk to swap a dented box for a pristine box. I commented “Ahhh, must be for pictures for internet resale.”
The guy spun hard, leaned into me and said “That’s none of your F’ing business!” I openly smiled and chuckled - asked why he was angry – it was a simple observation. That pissed him off more, so I took a step back. While I was watching his body language, the clerk pulled the ammo off of the counter and called security – then asked them to leave the store. The trio got a little too pumped up by the encounter, and the PD was there in moments – and I left for work.
I live in a fairly small town in Texas with roughly 7,500 souls. I would not have predicted an encounter like this over .22lr ammo for resale purposes. It is simply an indicator of how societal norms are shifting – AND the fact that the pressure is clearly evident. The next step for me may be an even smaller town, even further out – after getting a feel for the local norms………
I left California to escape this kind of crap. Maybe I can’t escape it………........ and that's a scary proposition.
Marc
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Post by Cwi555 on May 21, 2014 18:35:47 GMT -7
I was at the Walmart ammo counter at 7:30 AM on Friday morning looking for some .357 magnum JHP or JSP. The guy ahead of me was buying his three-box limit of Winchester black box M22 .22lr in 1,000 round bricks, and his wife and their son were doing the same, so they were buying 9,000 rounds. Evidently, they got there at 5:30 AM to wait for the ammo to me shelved. During the 2nd payment process, the customer asked the clerk to swap a dented box for a pristine box. I commented “Ahhh, must be for pictures for internet resale.” The guy spun hard, leaned into me and said “That’s none of your F’ing business!” I openly smiled and chuckled - asked why he was angry – it was a simple observation. That pissed him off more, so I took a step back. While I was watching his body language, the clerk pulled the ammo off of the counter and called security – then asked them to leave the store. The trio got a little too pumped up by the encounter, and the PD was there in moments – and I left for work. I live in a fairly small town in Texas with roughly 7,500 souls. I would not have predicted an encounter like this over .22lr ammo for resale purposes. It is simply an indicator of how societal norms are shifting – AND the fact that the pressure is clearly evident. The next step for me may be an even smaller town, even further out – after getting a feel for the local norms……… I left California to escape this kind of crap. Maybe I can’t escape it………........ and that's a scary proposition. Marc Sounds like you struck a nerve. It can be escaped in the short term, but it will follow later. |
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Post by thywar on May 21, 2014 19:00:52 GMT -7
That is strange. But WM shouldn't obviously sell that to a family. Oh well. Lesson learned. One of the reasons I'm headed back to a dirt road. Wooded land and it won't be a park setting by the road this time. I'm leaving the woods except for two acres. Hope to be mostly self sustaining but I'll have COOP electric
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Post by tjwilhelm on May 21, 2014 22:03:47 GMT -7
OK, Marc...I doubt I could convince you to move to Illinois...but maybe I can tempt you just a tad???
I live in an unincorporated village of 100, in a county of only 14,000. There's a property for sale on the edge of the village:
2,000 sq. foot house with a full basement (with safe/storage room) and a 2-car attached garage. It sits on 3.5 acres and includes a working Jacobs 4kW wind genny, along with 5kW of PV -- battery based (CONCORDES!), with Schneider (Xantrex) charge controllers and inverters. I think there's also some Outback, Morningstar, and other electronics over there, too. They just totally re-sided the house with Hardi Board, and they rebuilt the deck. The property also has an established orchard and veggie garden bed. The neighbor to the north is a nurse -- quiet single-lady who likes to garden. The neighbor to the south is an older guy, single, arborist, poet, and heavy (but quiet) drinker. Out back there are 300 sheep, some black angus, chickens, turkeys, etc., all rated "organic" on organic pasture land.
The owner is asking $300,000.00.
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Post by kutkota on May 21, 2014 22:36:20 GMT -7
Is that with or without the dodge ram making house calls TJ?
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Post by Ceorlmann on May 21, 2014 23:09:38 GMT -7
The @$$ knew what he was doing was wrong, and got mad that you caught him in the act.
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Post by thywar on May 22, 2014 3:06:57 GMT -7
TJ that sounds like quite a setup. But it is in a state represented by Dick Durbin with Rahm Emanuel as mayor of Chicago. I'm sure if you're out far enough it minimizes the political impact. Until it doesn't. And in a state like Illinois that allows such unconstitutional gun laws to stand for so long they will try again to defeat legal gun ownership. When the last three governors all get convicted and sent to prison that probably says enough for me. Now if that nurse came WITH the property..,, :-)
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Post by USCGME2 on May 22, 2014 5:39:19 GMT -7
Let's put it this way; people often ask me what the Coast Guard does in St. Louis? "Simple," I say, "my job is to protect the eastern shores of Missouri from the Communist hordes of Illinois!" I have often commented that Illinois is a beautiful state, full of good people, a rich history, all run by a bunch of moron criminals in Chicago whose offices are in Springfield. Marc, you only need to know two words to steer clear of the Land of Lincoln, "FOID card".
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Post by USCGME2 on May 22, 2014 5:45:34 GMT -7
By the way, did you get your 357? And pray tell my friend, for what beast do you feed such ammo to?  |
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Post by marc on May 22, 2014 13:00:16 GMT -7
By the way, did you get your 357? And pray tell my friend, for what beast do you feed such ammo to? Yes, indeed – but it was a couple of days later. They had more ammo than I had money. Bought a bunch of .357 mag in JSP, JHP and FMJ. They also had Winchester white box .38 special 130gr FMJ in boxes of 100 for $36. so I grabbed two. There is a lot of internet chatter about revolver flame cutting when using high velocity 110gr/125gr in .357 mag, but I love it in my 4” GP-100. I can’t see any excessive cutting on the forcing cone or top strap. For JHP, I like 158gr – but any full house load is hard on the wrist with the tiny little LCR-357’s. When I can save up enough pennies, I want a 20” lever gun in .357 – probably will have to be a Rossi because of cost. |
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Post by orly152 on May 22, 2014 13:15:55 GMT -7
I was at the Walmart ammo counter at 7:30 AM on Friday morning looking for some .357 magnum JHP or JSP. The guy ahead of me was buying his three-box limit of Winchester black box M22 .22lr in 1,000 round bricks, and his wife and their son were doing the same, so they were buying 9,000 rounds. Evidently, they got there at 5:30 AM to wait for the ammo to me shelved. During the 2nd payment process, the customer asked the clerk to swap a dented box for a pristine box. I commented “Ahhh, must be for pictures for internet resale.” The guy spun hard, leaned into me and said “That’s none of your F’ing business!” I openly smiled and chuckled - asked why he was angry – it was a simple observation. That pissed him off more, so I took a step back. While I was watching his body language, the clerk pulled the ammo off of the counter and called security – then asked them to leave the store. The trio got a little too pumped up by the encounter, and the PD was there in moments – and I left for work. I live in a fairly small town in Texas with roughly 7,500 souls. I would not have predicted an encounter like this over .22lr ammo for resale purposes. It is simply an indicator of how societal norms are shifting – AND the fact that the pressure is clearly evident. The next step for me may be an even smaller town, even further out – after getting a feel for the local norms……… I left California to escape this kind of crap. Maybe I can’t escape it………........ and that's a scary proposition. Marc Sounds like you struck a nerve. It can be escaped in the short term, but it will follow later. Not if he buys an island, sticks towers on each corner with 50 cals or higher on each |
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Post by marc on May 22, 2014 14:01:43 GMT -7
OK, Marc...I doubt I could convince you to move to Illinois...but maybe I can tempt you just a tad??? I live in an unincorporated village of 100, in a county of only 14,000. There's a property for sale on the edge of the village: 2,000 sq. foot house with a full basement (with safe/storage room) and a 2-car attached garage. It sits on 3.5 acres and includes a working Jacobs 4kW wind genny, along with 5kW of PV -- battery based (CONCORDES!), with Schneider (Xantrex) charge controllers and inverters. I think there's also some Outback, Morningstar, and other electronics over there, too. They just totally re-sided the house with Hardi Board, and they rebuilt the deck. The property also has an established orchard and veggie garden bed. The neighbor to the north is a nurse -- quiet single-lady who likes to garden. The neighbor to the south is an older guy, single, arborist, poet, and heavy (but quiet) drinker. Out back there are 300 sheep, some black angus, chickens, turkeys, etc., all rated "organic" on organic pasture land. The owner is asking $300,000.00. While the good parts sound really good, there are things about Texas I've gotten used to. Things that I just don't want to give up. I worked for a company based in the Chicago area, and I did projects up in Rockford and way down toward both Bloomington and Jacksonville. While I really liked some of the beautiful small towns, the geography, weather and laws just don't fit my needs. By the way, you should see what $300K gets around here! I feel pretty strongly about certain things. Here was my view from my house in CA - that I sold - to move to Texas because I want to live a certain way: Morro Bay, CABy the same token, the folks that I worked with in IL, wouldn't dream of leaving their state! Marc |
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Post by orly152 on May 22, 2014 15:25:58 GMT -7
Wow marc...that's one hard view to give up but I would of done the same thing.
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Post by marc on May 22, 2014 17:40:43 GMT -7
Orly,
The day we moved in - summer of '99, I couldn't imagine ever moving. "Good God - how I could be so lucky to live here!"
Southern CA started moving North. By 2004, I had to have my dog on a leash when I went for a run on the beach. A year later, my dog was not even allowed on the beach right in front of my own house because she might "scare the Snowy Plover" birds."
I got HEAVILY involved and found that they count the "declining population of plovers" when they have migrated out of the area - NOT when they are nesting on the beach. The next step was to ban the flying of kites on the beach because it might appear to be a predator - to the non-nesting Plovers - who were in Colorado at the time. I personally watched a Grandfather get tackled and cuffed for flying a kite on the beach with his Grandson - exactly where HIS Grandfather flew them with him.
WE the PEOPLE rallied and paid for a study by the University of CA Davis - super respected in all things animal and agricultural. They agreed 100% that the Plovers were nowhere near endangered. The State was waaaay off base.
When we finally got it to court in 2007 - the State of California said: "Oh well. We actually don't have to prove why we do things."
The Judge said that we had clearly proven our case, but the law was written the way the State claimed. They have no controls in place and no one to tangle with. Sorry - you lose, they win.
THEN, in an obvious effort to pay us back - new rulings began to incrementally close the beach to humans - except of course for the hoards of "State Employees" who trampled everything, set up their beach chairs and coolers - and had bonfires on the beach and partied until dawn. By the time I moved, I couldn't walk on the beach on front of my home.
I organized citizen clean up crews to keep the beach pristine. I ran a volunteer group to be on call 24/7 for oil/fuel spill cleanup when the USCG needed more bodies for floating diaper duty. We coordinated closely with the animal rescue teams when an otter/dolphin/seal/baby whale came ashore in distress, or when the Orca's or Great Whites were hunting inside the surf line. Yet, I was labeled as being an "environmental terrorist."
The decision to leave, got even easier over time. I knew it was time to leave when I saw a local "aging counter-culture" resident (old hippie) remove and break up my "Support America" magnet-ribbon from my truck. In a small town, you know pretty much everyone, so I stopped by the PD and wanted to create a report about what he had done. Their response was that they had better things to do with their time.
I'm in Texas now.
Simply stated in the local vernacular: "That s--t don't fly here."
Marc
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Post by USCGME2 on May 22, 2014 21:37:35 GMT -7
Its shameful Marc, your only crime was making sense. That is the left thinking in a nutshell - everything backward, upside down and driving in reverse all at the same time. It is my experience that most ruling institutions from the local HOA to Capital Hill are quite insane. For some reason Cali is more so than others. Texas I think is just stubborn enough to hold on to a semblance of sanity IF they can get a stranglehold on Austin and drive out the hippies like they did the bandits in the Ranger days.
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