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Post by graf on Aug 9, 2014 9:25:03 GMT -7
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Post by offtrail on Aug 9, 2014 9:36:37 GMT -7
Thanks for sharing, the problem i have with spring snares is finding a sapling to use as the spring. Not only that but finding a sapling in the best location like by a game trail. I know you can cut your own spring pole and place it where you want it but it seems the pole always looses it's spring once it's bent. it's a problem I've had when working with this type of snare...do you have any suggestions?
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Post by missasip on Aug 9, 2014 15:31:21 GMT -7
Though I don't know diddlily about snares (which I'm trying to learn now) my experince with wood leads me to think that any green wood would never be considered as a spring for a snare. A mostly seasoned peice of hardwood, particulary cherry or hickory. A limb from one of those trees seasoned used in reverse of it's natural bend should work very well. Least I'm thinking it would....
What y'all think?
Jimmy
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Post by offtrail on Aug 9, 2014 20:39:33 GMT -7
Though I don't know diddlily about snares (which I'm trying to learn now) my experince with wood leads me to think that any green wood would never be considered as a spring for a snare. A mostly seasoned peice of hardwood, particulary cherry or hickory. A limb from one of those trees seasoned used in reverse of it's natural bend should work very well. Least I'm thinking it would.... What y'all think? Jimmy I like it! makes sense to me as long as it don't snap from being bent. |
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Post by graf on Aug 10, 2014 4:18:27 GMT -7
I have found that a green wood around 1" diameter to provide good spring, simply test whatever your using. my favorite is the orange fiberglass rods used to mark driveways for snow plowing, I secure them to another upright to get the height. I have also used bungy cords on limbs for excellent spring action as well as sling shot rubber Try and not limit the possibilties, I like to improvise, makes you think.
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Post by offtrail on Aug 10, 2014 8:14:44 GMT -7
I have found that a green wood around 1" diameter to provide good spring, simply test whatever your using. my favorite is the orange fiberglass rods used to mark driveways for snow plowing, I secure them to another upright to get the height. I have also used bungy cords on limbs for excellent spring action as well as sling shot rubber Try and not limit the possibilties, I like to improvise, makes you think. Well I hear what your saying it's always good to think outside the box. Just never seen them wild bungie cords, what plant do they grow on  Some woods may work better then others..trial and error i guess. |
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Post by graf on Aug 10, 2014 8:41:50 GMT -7
OT If you have a back pack in the woods many come with elastic cords on the outside for quick access to frequent items, if your pack doesn't have them there worth adding, I have added to my molle packs as well, simple to install and has multiple uses. so I guess my answer as to what plant it would be a pack bush.
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Post by woodyz on Aug 11, 2014 21:26:50 GMT -7
U don't need a sapling or a seasoned hickory, just reach up and pull down a limb, it will have enough spring in it to set the snare. The trick in snares I think is in the height its set and the size of the loop based on what gets to it first. Also they make a fishing yo yo that can easily be used as a snare spring and you can tie it to a limb or the tree its self the spring built in supplies the power, it weighs nothing is about 3/4 inch thick and 21/2" around. They work fine as a self fishing tool while you get the fire ready, as a snare or as a booby trap trip wire. Not legal to fish in some states but we are talking during an event. 3 each for $10 here but you can find them cheaper. www.cabelas.com/product/Yo-Yo-Automatic-Fishing-Reels/701933.uts60# test line, but if you are trying to snare something bigger than a rabbit or racoon use it as the pull and not the loop. www.bing.com/videos/search?q=yo+yo+fishing&FORM=VIRE3#view=detail&mid=F7984E5B625341E25407F7984E5B625341E25407 |
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Post by graf on Aug 12, 2014 2:25:26 GMT -7
Woodyz
I agree about using a limb, sometimes game trails and limbs for snareing are not in the same areas and you have to add a limb where needed. I have some of the fishing yo-yos in my packs and they do work well fishing I have read that they work for snaring I just haven't tried it yet. Have you?
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Post by woodyz on Aug 12, 2014 22:48:14 GMT -7
I have used them fishing where legal, they are not legal in SC where I live now. But they work great catching fish in a limb line set up. But a good strong but springy limb out over the water works well too.
I have used them as a trip wire to initiate an alarm/security device. They work well when a normal trip wire is hit with too little force, the use of a yo yo in the pull assures a good hard hit to the wire.
Same principal on snares. When an victim passes through a snare they must feel something and react by rushing forward and pulling the release device. Using a spring limb provides the pull to the trip device even when the victim stops rather than rushes forward allowing a catch instead of a miss. The yo yo can be used to do the same when no spring limb is available. It can be used to pull the release device or to pull the snare, depending on the set. The 60# line is good for everything but the mechanics of the yo yo won't hold up alone to hold a victim it will strip out. I have used them with great success on tree rats and rabbits and with some success on yotes and yote sized victims. They won't do well stand alone for a leg snare like you would use for a deer, but they work as a trip device on leg snares. I have caught deer with wire loops triggered by the yoyo.
In a shtf situation I wouldn't be caught with out some. Use them to hold up a tarp without setting the trip, use them to hag closes on or to holdup blind material.
Many many uses and when you are done take them down, roll in the 60# line and stow for the next time. Quick access, light weight, small footprint, reusable, keeps the line from getting knotted up and cheap enough to leave behind or throw away if it breaks. Buy them 12 for $20.
I know they were legal in TX, KS, OK, AR, Ky, MO, IL I have used them legally there, but the law could have changed. I found them to be illegal in SC and TN. So check your state regs before using to fish. The other uses most likely are not regulated so if you can convince the law you were not fishing with it, go for it.
But I wouldn't let the legality of using in in your state stop me from buying some and practice use them so I would know what to expect when I had to use them.
I even used on in the house to hold a shower curtain up when the rod broke. Don't think of them as just a trip wire device, think of them as a container of cord to be used where ever cord may be needed.
NOTE You can use and cut the cord if required but don't toss the yo yo they can be reloaded again.
But if you are on a body of water where you can set limb lines with these while you sleep when its dark, they will catch and hold fish for you. The best use of the for fishing is from dark to dawn in a lake with catfish and/or crappie. other fish too, those two I have the experience with.
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Post by graf on Aug 13, 2014 1:38:18 GMT -7
Here is a improvised fish snare I made with a L/7 trigger   |
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Some woods may work better then others..trial and error i guess. 
