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Post by rangerxanatos on Sept 4, 2014 6:26:30 GMT -7
I need some help on the hand drill. Right now I've been using blackberry on cottonwood and have been able to get dust and a little bit of smoke. I've tried mullein and can't even get that to make dust. To me it seems like I just cant get enough downward pressure yet but I'm looking for other recommendations on anything I need to improve. I've gotten coals using thumb-loops on mullein and horseweed but I want to be able to do it without the thumb-loops. Right now I'll just keep practicing to get my muscles in better shape for it.
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Post by insaneh on Sept 4, 2014 8:02:37 GMT -7
OFFTRAIL!
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Post by mud on Sept 5, 2014 5:32:49 GMT -7
CedricG still has some videos up...that guy is amazing too
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Post by woodyz on Sept 5, 2014 15:34:20 GMT -7
+1 for offtrail
I never had much luck without going to a bow drill type setup and using something to push down on the top. Many "survival" type knives have a hole for keeping the drill stick in line and downward pressure.
It's pretty easy to find a "bow" limb and almost any cordage will work. Plus I have found with a bow drill set up I can use a much shorter drill stick and still get good results.
Just my .02
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Post by orly152 on Sept 10, 2014 17:22:53 GMT -7
OT dont need no sticks to start a fire....all he needs is a can of beans and thin air...lol
OT is the man for this task
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Post by marc on Sept 10, 2014 18:13:46 GMT -7
OT don't need no can of beans, he can do it with a single breath!
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Post by offtrail on Sept 11, 2014 8:07:43 GMT -7
Sorry people but i'm not a fan of the hand drill, just never seen the need to do the hand drill when you can bowdrill. I think doing the hand drill is very cool but not very practical in many locations. With a bow drill a little moisture can be worked out and a coal formed. With the hand drill everything has to be just right, no room for error. In my location trying to make a hand drill from scratch in the field and get a coal is pert near impossible. Now if you live in a dry location that gets very little rain like the desert the task gets much easier. So in my opinion unless you carry a proven handdrill kit with you, and keep it dry it's just not worth the effort. I do however have a tip on the hand drill, give me some time and ill post the tip later today...it's hard to explain and much easier to show...pic coming later today.
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Post by offtrail on Sept 11, 2014 8:09:39 GMT -7
CedricG still has some videos up...that guy is amazing too Yep CedricG is good no doubt about it. |
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Post by offtrail on Sept 11, 2014 18:15:23 GMT -7
Use your hand drill and base board in a bowdrill, just to make sure it will work. If it's easy to get a coal from the hand drill spindle and baseboard using a bow. Then you know it should work as a hand drill kit. But if it takes you a long time to get a coal using the bow drill then you need to change either the spindle or the baseboard. Does that make sense to you? Your like testing your material to make sure it works before you try the material as a hand drill.
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Post by woodyz on Sept 26, 2014 19:46:12 GMT -7
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Post by insaneh on Sept 27, 2014 5:28:41 GMT -7
Here's another method to practice.
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