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Post by Ceorlmann on Apr 7, 2015 3:55:37 GMT -7
I loved raw milk from the farm. I just didn't like having to pour the cream off. But I loved the cream too. And I particularly like the fresh butter on hot homemade biscuits with my Mother's homemade peach preserves or applesauce. Glass of cold fresh milk. Yum I never had raw cow's milk until I went to Switzerland. The idea that our government wants it all pasteurized yet over 90% of the rest of the world is fine with it raw... it's one of the few times when I actually agree with foreigners who say the USA is a backwards-thinking country. |
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Post by thywar on Apr 7, 2015 5:44:00 GMT -7
Well IMO we aren't backwards in our thinking and while stationed over there I never let anyone express that without being challenged that we are backward. (And I'm not challenging your assertion just your wording). We are, however, over regulated, over taxed, over spent, over governed, over pansified, overly whiny, overly petulant and at a complete loss of our history and foundations. The sooner we give up all our rights then the left (and evidently some republicans) will be happy. Well I never really understood standing in a circle singing Kumbaya and getting all mushy when someone needed killing.
Whole generations think all that food in the grocery store just magically appears in the basement and have no clue what it takes to run (or probably what) a dairy, or grow wheat to make bread, or what it takes to build a school, a car, or the implements it takes to feed them. They look for everyone to finish in first place and nobody ever loses. They expect the world to be at their doorstep once they've achieved their crappy education with a $60,000 beginning salary. They.....well you get the picture.
What started this venting was imagining someone calling us backwards. We might screw a lot of things up and WE can say we have but unless you're a red bloodedUSA American STFU
Man I hate not getting a good night's sleep.
PS. This was about raw milk, right? Lol
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Post by ColcordMama on Apr 7, 2015 8:36:29 GMT -7
I just hate it when I come here first thing in the morning, not even a sip of coffee in me yet, my eyes still half closed, and someone says something that makes me LOL. Gimme a break guys, my face still has sleep creases in it and now I'm gonna LOL?
still LOLing over STFU.....
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Post by Cwi555 on Apr 7, 2015 8:38:39 GMT -7
I have a tendency to float concepts and thoughts that are new to me around for days. This particular take on it was new to me. After some thought and research it encapsulated the intent and purpose of the first ammendment regarding free speech much better than other takes I've read. Learned something new out of that. Thanks for the post. Ok I know I'm gonna catch heck for this but I gotta say it....I love the 1st Amendment as much as anyone, but no where in it does it say you have the right to say anything you want...it plainly and clearly says the Government cannot abridge ones right to free speech. The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances. It was adopted on December 15, 1791, as one of the ten amendments that constitute the Bill of Rights. Does the First Amendment apply to private companies and organizations? No. The First Amendment applies to the government — to protect individuals from government censorship. While the text of the First Amendment says “Congress shall make no law … abridging the freedom of speech,” it means that no federal, state or local government official can infringe on your free-speech rights. A private company is not a government or state and therefore generally is not subject to the requirements of the First Amendment. 1forall.us/teach-the-first-amendment/the-first-amendment/Ok hammer time I guess....  Jimmy |
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Post by solargeek1 on Apr 7, 2015 10:55:55 GMT -7
Ok I know I'm gonna catch heck for this but I gotta say it....I love the 1st Amendment as much as anyone, but no where in it does it say you have the right to say anything you want...it plainly and clearly says the Government cannot abridge ones right to free speech. The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances. It was adopted on December 15, 1791, as one of the ten amendments that constitute the Bill of Rights. Does the First Amendment apply to private companies and organizations? No. The First Amendment applies to the government — to protect individuals from government censorship. While the text of the First Amendment says “Congress shall make no law … abridging the freedom of speech,” it means that no federal, state or local government official can infringe on your free-speech rights. A private company is not a government or state and therefore generally is not subject to the requirements of the First Amendment. 1forall.us/teach-the-first-amendment/the-first-amendment/Ok hammer time I guess.... Jimmy Jimmy I love that you pointed this out. Of course it is true that private companies can make rules about the speech of their at will employees if they so choose. For example, at restaurants I worked at they told us to be polite and not say "you guys" to customers. Also not to call anyone "honey". So when I was a partner at a firm, I told the associates I would no longer allow them to use God's name in vain in my office. Period. And no unsavory language. As you might imagine in a large, secular law firm, this made waves. However, I was backed up by others as, hey, if they didn't like the rules, go work for another partner (but I had the most fun billable work to hand out so they didn't want to leave). I did hear my neighboring associate (who did almost 100% of her billables for me/my client) say to a newer associate that "for heaven's sake, don't swear, curse or use bad language in HER office! or you can't work with HER". Loved my reputation. |
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Post by angelhelp on Apr 7, 2015 14:14:23 GMT -7
There goes the whole top row of my keyboard...  |
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Post by sirderrin on Apr 7, 2015 16:33:21 GMT -7
There goes the whole top row of my keyboard... Hmm is there sum'in I don't know about the function keys?  |
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Post by crashdive123 on Apr 7, 2015 17:44:54 GMT -7
" I got some news for you. There is no such place as a 'private' forum without spending a pile of money. Even then, a truely private forum cannot happen on the surface web. The reality is free speech died long ago. You don't have to agree or disagree with that, it's a done deal. That's the reality we live in. I keep many thoughts to myself these days for that reason. You have a choice to be here.. or not. If we get pinged for a violation of proboards terms of service, that choice could be taken from you or all of us." Tell you what.....let's go with the "or not". There are some great people on here; I even like some of the people I disagree with. You sir, ain't one of them. The rules here are simple and rather mild compared to some places. We all have a choice to abide by them or move on. nobody is forcing anybody to stay, and hopefully it doesn't get to the point where members are forced to leave because they choose the "or not" option. |
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Post by ColcordMama on Apr 7, 2015 17:47:33 GMT -7
Amen to that ^
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Post by thywar on Oct 21, 2017 7:00:43 GMT -7
Ok I know I'm gonna catch heck for this but I gotta say it....I love the 1st Amendment as much as anyone, but no where in it does it say you have the right to say anything you want...it plainly and clearly says the Government cannot abridge ones right to free speech. The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances. It was adopted on December 15, 1791, as one of the ten amendments that constitute the Bill of Rights. Does the First Amendment apply to private companies and organizations? No. The First Amendment applies to the government — to protect individuals from government censorship. While the text of the First Amendment says “Congress shall make no law … abridging the freedom of speech,” it means that no federal, state or local government official can infringe on your free-speech rights. A private company is not a government or state and therefore generally is not subject to the requirements of the First Amendment. 1forall.us/teach-the-first-amendment/the-first-amendment/Ok hammer time I guess.... Jimmy Wow. Two years ago we had this discussion. And just look how far we've slid down the slippery slope. If this isn't an eye opener on how little time it takes (and how well the progs manipulate it) to change course I don't know what is. Yet, there is some hope. If Steve Bannon has his way in the upcoming ejections we will have either turned the boat 45degrees or the left will become further unhinged and start a civil war. Or both. Constitutional conservatives being elected to the senate will push them over the edge. Don't count. Annon out. He's 2-0 |
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Post by missasip on Oct 21, 2017 22:14:41 GMT -7
Ok I know I'm gonna catch heck for this but I gotta say it....I love the 1st Amendment as much as anyone, but no where in it does it say you have the right to say anything you want...it plainly and clearly says the Government cannot abridge ones right to free speech. The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances. It was adopted on December 15, 1791, as one of the ten amendments that constitute the Bill of Rights. Does the First Amendment apply to private companies and organizations? No. The First Amendment applies to the government — to protect individuals from government censorship. While the text of the First Amendment says “Congress shall make no law … abridging the freedom of speech,” it means that no federal, state or local government official can infringe on your free-speech rights. A private company is not a government or state and therefore generally is not subject to the requirements of the First Amendment. 1forall.us/teach-the-first-amendment/the-first-amendment/Ok hammer time I guess.... Jimmy Wow. Two years ago we had this discussion. And just look how far we've slid down the slippery slope. If this isn't an eye opener on how little time it takes (and how well the progs manipulate it) to change course I don't know what is. Yet, there is some hope. If Steve Bannon has his way in the upcoming ejections we will have either turned the boat 45degrees or the left will become further unhinged and start a civil war. Or both. Constitutional conservatives being elected to the senate will push them over the edge. Don't count. Annon out. He's 2-0 We are at I believe a very critical juncture in the way our country is going to move forward. When certain folks start talking about civil war it does get my attention. I'm not sure there is anything that is going g to prevent it.... Jimmy |
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Post by marc on Oct 22, 2017 6:45:39 GMT -7
The Leftists are making a strategic error by pushing too hard, too fast. Their enormous historical gains have come with patience with a slow and methodical long game. The new breed has forgotten how pernicious attacks work best.
Fortunately, because of this - we have a large core segment of this country that is slowly but surely waking up. You can see it everywhere. The election of Trump is a perfect indicator of backlash in anger.
The pressure just keeps building.
Edit to add:
Google Chuck Untersee sometime. He has made two movies about where our country is going and how this is our last chance. "Behold a Pale Horse" in particular is a compelling documentary.
I have been fortunate to know he and Anita because we have a lot of beliefs in common.
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Post by rebel71 on Aug 3, 2019 7:46:22 GMT -7
From Personal experience, More so here in the UK, We DON'T Have Freedom of speech over here, Oh yes they tell us we have but we DON'T,
10 Years ago I made a comment on-line about Immigration; Next thing I knew Police smashed down my front door, Home smashed to bits, I got 2 Years in Jail; Lost my Home and Everything I owned,
Freedom of Speech BUT NOT in Britain, Be very careful what you post and say Online.
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