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Post by kutkota on Jun 15, 2017 15:18:34 GMT -7
Another thought: What if the guy is a pedophile and recording your children for that purpose? Maybe he isn't, but why else would he want to tape your children's activities inside their bedrooms if not to see them dressing and undressing? Part of why I'm debating jail time.
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Post by ColcordMama on Jun 15, 2017 16:57:08 GMT -7
Another thought: What if the guy is a pedophile and recording your children for that purpose? Maybe he isn't, but why else would he want to tape your children's activities inside their bedrooms if not to see them dressing and undressing? Part of why I'm debating jail time. You're not the one who should go to jail. He is.
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Post by ColcordMama on Jun 15, 2017 17:18:55 GMT -7
Another thought: I have my doubts that window tinting will prevent the cameras from seeing and recording when it's dark outside but the lights are on inside. Maybe you should test that before you relax your vigilance.
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Post by kutkota on Jun 15, 2017 17:47:28 GMT -7
Another thought: I have my doubts that window tinting will prevent the cameras from seeing and recording when it's dark outside but the lights are on inside. Maybe you should test that before you relax your vigilance. All good points, and we are far from relaxing anything. I'll let you know what we find out. Thanks again for all the ideas.
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Post by ColcordMama on Jun 15, 2017 18:26:09 GMT -7
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Post by solargeek1 on Jun 15, 2017 18:36:24 GMT -7
Kukota, I will try to work on this tomorrow. Just ending a full day with MI Tenant research for DD - 3 rounds with Landlord.
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Post by kutkota on Jun 15, 2017 18:38:01 GMT -7
I will take any help you can provide. I sure hope you give the slum lord a nice whoopin.
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Post by Ceorlmann on Jun 16, 2017 0:12:39 GMT -7
Take pics of cameras in current position, then install blackout curtains on the bedroom windows. If the @$$, I mean "neighbor" moves the cameras then take another pic showing them moved/removed. Keep pics as evidence and present to proper authorities if/when the opportunity arises. If he gets accused of being a pedophile by someone else for instance the additional evidence (your pics) ought to help throw him in jail.
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Post by woodyz on Jun 16, 2017 10:08:18 GMT -7
you could install bright "security" lights that point right at his camera, thus blocking/blinding them
you could install a laser pointing device at his camera lens, thus blinding it.
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Post by Cwi555 on Jun 16, 2017 13:18:44 GMT -7
www.moga.mo.gov/mostatutes/stathtml/56500002521.HTMLSG, It would appear there would need to be some form of recording for this law to apply. Kutkota, Need to ask your neighbor if they saw any evidence of it being recorded. Chances are it's recorded, if so, it becomes a felony of different grades depending on what was recorded, and the number of persons involved. SG, Am I reading that wrong?
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Post by solargeek1 on Jun 16, 2017 13:24:19 GMT -7
The law is set forth below this article.
Kukota, you have a very strong argument re making him turn the cameras away from bedroom windows where you and your kids will be undressing. The statute used to be stronger so you will find lots of articles saying what they can and can't do. But as of now, this is the state statute. Most cities/towns also have regs that may be more stringent. Call your county clerk. Ask. They will know. Call the police back and tell them your kids are so worried and so are you and that the camera is trained on your bedroom windows.
Good luck
MO stats, Section 565.252.1 Invasion of privacy, penalty.
565.252. 1. A person commits the offense of invasion of privacy if he or she knowingly:
(1) Photographs, films, videotapes, produces, or otherwise creates an image of another person, without the person's consent, while the person is in a state of full or partial nudity and is in a place where one would have a reasonable expectation of privacy; or [from SG - of course you expect privacy and change clothes in a bedroom!]
(2) Photographs, films, videotapes, produces, or otherwise creates an image of another person under or through the clothing worn by that other person for the purpose of viewing the body of or the undergarments worn by that other person without that person's consent.
2. Invasion of privacy is a class A misdemeanor unless:
(1) A person who creates an image in violation of this section distributes the image to another or transmits the image in a manner that allows access to that image via computer;
(2) A person disseminates or permits the dissemination by any means, to another person, of a videotape, photograph, or film obtained in violation of this section;
(3) More than one person is viewed, photographed, filmed or videotaped during the same course of conduct; or
(4) The offense was committed by a person who has previously been found guilty of invasion of privacy
in which case invasion of privacy is a class E felony.
3. Prior findings of guilt shall be pleaded and proven in the same manner required by the provisions of section 558.021.
4. As used in this section, "same course of conduct" means more than one person has been viewed, photographed, filmed, or videotaped under the same or similar circumstances pursuant to one scheme or course of conduct, whether at the same or different times.
(L. 2002 S.B. 969, et al., A.L. 2014 S.B. 491)
Effective 1-01-17
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Post by solargeek1 on Jun 16, 2017 13:26:44 GMT -7
www.moga.mo.gov/mostatutes/stathtml/56500002521.HTMLSG, It would appear there would need to be some form of recording for this law to apply. Kutkota, Need to ask your neighbor if they saw any evidence of it being recorded. Chances are it's recorded, if so, it becomes a felony of different grades depending on what was recorded, and the number of persons involved. SG, Am I reading that wrong? No CWI you are correct - they repealed what legalbeagle (usually dead to rights on the law) relied upon. And our 2 posts were almost simultaneous.
Kukota sorry for the above stuff - it was easier then to assert your rights.
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Post by woodyz on Jun 16, 2017 14:23:03 GMT -7
Or you could shoot the camera lens with a BB/PELLET gun
do it late at night from the street not your yard.
and not in the "view" of the camera
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Post by thywar on Jun 16, 2017 16:33:15 GMT -7
Or you could shoot the camera lens with a BB/PELLET gun do it late at night from the street not your yard. and not in the "view" of the camera Plan B
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Post by crashdive123 on Jun 17, 2017 3:47:45 GMT -7
I'm a little confused about this, but there is probably more to the story than I know. That being said, I understand that your neighbor is an azzhat. IF he lives across the street and has installed cameras that point out toward the street (seems like a normal direction to point them) and you are on the other side of the street..... Most security cameras shoot a fairly wide field a view, so recording something through a window across the street seems unlikely....unless these are not typical security cameras and they are zoomed in on your windows.
Is it possible that since he has become a less than neighborly neighbor that he has been the recipient of vandalism or threats? If so, a security system would seem prudent.
If that is the case - DO NOT be the one messing with his cameras because then it will be assumed that you are the one that communicated threats to him.
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