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Post by USCGME2 on Jan 11, 2013 21:44:42 GMT -7
Lets say I want to put a cache or two between me and a given location. My BOL from home would be about 80mi. )880 miles if I have to leave from Texas but, thats another story.) I think I have a good idea of how to bury one and could figure out where but what I dont know is what does one put in them? How much stuff? What about the tools to get to it? I know a lot of it is situation dependent but, is it like a buried BOB? What common stock do I need to be focused up on?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2013 22:00:11 GMT -7
I would think you would want to put things like:
~Water purification kit
~water can, canteen or other means of carrying cleaned water
~fire tinder kit with firesteel & another means of starting a fire
~Long term dried food, maybe a couple of MRE kits or something homemade
~mini fishing kit
~FAK supplies
~map & compass
~a knife or 3
~spare pistol & several boxes of ammo
~snare wire, rat traps, methods for catching live meat
~socks, underwear, pants, shirt, jacket, poncho
~duct tape
~powdered electrolytes, instant coffee, tea bags
~tarp for makeshift tent
~550 paracord & other form of rope
~sleeping roll or wool blanket
~frameless pack to throw everything in
You might not need all of this when you get to it, but if something happens and you loose your BOB, this would get you to the next point. Maybe you could think of a few odds & ends you would throw in with it to make it complete. If you did minimal of certain items, made mini kits and such, this should all easily fit into a cache and when put together right, fir into most any pack.
I would recommend the cloths and such because you really don't know what the world will be like if you end up having to use these to get home. You might be pretty thread bare and in need of some of this by the time you get there.
I would set up these kinds of caches for refilling my supplies along the way so my BOB would be the same as if I had just set out on the road home. You may not need all this stuff, but you could easily trade it or put it back in the cache and maybe use it another time.
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Post by mud on Jan 11, 2013 22:24:47 GMT -7
Didn't CWI post a good thread on this once>? maybe on the other site, but either way it is good to refresh the mind. Much depends on what you intend to use it for vs what the likely situation it actually gets used in. I think Dink has a good start but honestly I have all of that in my little back pack that goes everywhere with me. My Idea of a cache is things you either do not want to carry with you or you cannot carry with you or an item that is likely to be confiscated or lost.
Being new to actually going through the process, this is every bit as difficult to manage as figuring out what stays and what goes in your BOB. We have chosen to take what we have the most of and spread it around us as well as in route to the BOL. Ours are small but easy to conceal and each has a purpose. We are using welding rod containers so the container itself can be used to transport/store water. Inside a variety of tools, knives, ammo, poncho liners, ponchos, packable back packs, sil-nylon tarps, MRE, etc. All of our cache's are currently nothing more than pit stops to either replace lost or stolen items or provide the items that increase the chances of reaching our BOL.
edged tools, multi-tools, fire starting, first aid, water purification, cordage are in all of them no mater what else goes in behind it.
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Post by pathwinder14 on Jan 12, 2013 11:04:30 GMT -7
Basically a mini-B.O.B. Knife, firesteel, blanket, 550, hatchet, file, matches, compass, empty backpack, steel bottle, tarp, duct tape, fak, MRE, multi tool, fishing kit, slingshot band.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2013 11:10:31 GMT -7
I do want to point out that caches to get to a BOL or just getting out of dodge would probably be filled differently than caches filled for simply getting home over a long distance. Think about what you might need should you loose your BOB or have hundreds of miles to travel. There is no way you can pack everything you would need for such a long haul, so, what do you think you will need for a refuel by the time you get to each cache? Whatever you put in it, consider a small pack to put the stuff in, trial pack it before putting it in the cache (unloaded of course) to make sure everything fits. If you loose your pack, you will need something to carry it all in, and if you still have your pack, you may need something anyways to carry it all. And if you get there and don't need everything in it, re-cache it.
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Post by mud on Jan 12, 2013 14:14:42 GMT -7
I do want to point out that caches to get to a BOL or just getting out of dodge would probably be filled differently than caches filled for simply getting home over a long distance. Think about what you might need should you loose your BOB or have hundreds of miles to travel. There is no way you can pack everything you would need for such a long haul, so, what do you think you will need for a refuel by the time you get to each cache? Whatever you put in it, consider a small pack to put the stuff in, trial pack it before putting it in the cache (unloaded of course) to make sure everything fits. If you loose your pack, you will need something to carry it all in, and if you still have your pack, you may need something anyways to carry it all. And if you get there and don't need everything in it, re-cache it. I hope I did not come off as trying to one up ya Dink, Just pointing out how we use and plan our caches. In the case of INCH situation, well honestly we have not planned much on that |
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Post by missasip on Jan 12, 2013 14:17:20 GMT -7
I have played with caches for many years. I have fairly good luck and a few failures.
As far as where to put them, the first IMO is right at your abode. If something happens to your house, fire, tornado, riot, zombies whatever, I don't want to travel anywhere to get to my first supplies. I may really need tem right there and then.
My "Home" cache is as safe as I can make it. Short of a pure stumble across it by someone or an earthquake, nothing will borther it.
It is pretty much a BOB. Water, 1 set of clothes, 1 pair of shoes, food, FAK, paracord, rope, edged tools, self defense equipment.
I currently have 2 buried caches and they contain resupplies of water, food, FAK, self defense equipment. One is on the road to where I would go if I had to bug out, least I hope it's still there. And I have another a few miles from my BOL (home). It also contains mainly resupply.
I dug up 2 others I had in the ground for a number of years. They both held up quite well.
I say think of what you need for the given distance and what you would be doing if passing the site. Examples would be, bugging out, getting home, just need the supplies because yours were stolen, destroyed.
I say even a small cache with just water and food is better than none.
Jimmy
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2013 14:42:59 GMT -7
I do want to point out that caches to get to a BOL or just getting out of dodge would probably be filled differently than caches filled for simply getting home over a long distance. Think about what you might need should you loose your BOB or have hundreds of miles to travel. There is no way you can pack everything you would need for such a long haul, so, what do you think you will need for a refuel by the time you get to each cache? Whatever you put in it, consider a small pack to put the stuff in, trial pack it before putting it in the cache (unloaded of course) to make sure everything fits. If you loose your pack, you will need something to carry it all in, and if you still have your pack, you may need something anyways to carry it all. And if you get there and don't need everything in it, re-cache it. I hope I did not come off as trying to one up ya Dink, Just pointing out how we use and plan our caches. In the case of INCH situation, well honestly we have not planned much on that Not at all darlin!! I just had a brain fart and figured I would try to make my confusion clear...if not to anyone else, then at least to me! ;D I agree completely with your post. A cache is going to need to be set up according to the need and the individual. Having a variety of ideas from all of us will give each other more ideas to choose form. It's all good!! {{{{{mud}}}}} |
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Post by cajunlady87 on Jan 13, 2013 4:26:49 GMT -7
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Post by woodyz on Jan 13, 2013 19:15:08 GMT -7
To me a cache is just another kit, hidden for when you need it. Like kits it comes in sizes from:
EDC
48HR
72HR
CAMP
They belong where ever you think in advance you might need something and the act of putting it there ahead of time.
Where it is, how you conceal it, what's in it, is all up to you and what you need.
My cache's are mostly for two reasons.
1) Something was lost somehow, stolen, taken, denied, etc. and I need it again.
2) I don't want to have to carry everything I might need to get from here to there.
Rally points, select intervals on an intended path/hike/retreat, everything I might need to camp for a few days or everything I might need to camp for a month.
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Post by Redneckidokie on Jan 13, 2013 22:56:10 GMT -7
Not only do you have to worry about what to put IN it,but where you plant it. I have evidently got an infestation of armadillos at my BOL, that have been digging in unwanted places. Not sure if it is the pre turned soil they like or what? I just discovered this yesterday on a trip to the farm.  Armadillogeddon to follow soon.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2013 23:04:42 GMT -7
Not only do you have to worry about what to put IN it,but where you plant it. I have evidently got an infestation of armadillos at my BOL, that have been digging in unwanted places. Not sure if it is the pre turned soil they like or what? I just discovered this yesterday on a trip to the farm. Armadillogeddon to follow soon. Be creful...some of them carry leprocy. Handle them with gloves. Years ago, we ate them. Not sure if cooking them kills the virus or if we just got lucky. Either way, be careful if you handle any carcasses. |
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Post by woodyz on Jan 13, 2013 23:08:30 GMT -7
Might rethink that. They are ant eaters and one of the few things that can wipe out a fire ant nest.
They are in your dirt for two reasons, they don't see so good and they were looking for an ant hill, and/or when you turned the dirt you brought minerals to the top that are not most other places. Deer will do the same, a deer can't resist coming to new turned dirt, be it a garden being tilled, trees up rooted or a little dirt pushing with a tractor blade. We even had them come check out where we had dug post holes. Its just a quick source of minerals they are craving.
But if you do kill them, cook um like you would a pig in a pit. Add some taters and onions. Slow roasted = yum yum. You might be surprised.
Right now we have a lot of mushrooms breaking through the layers of pine nettles. The dillo's have rooted for the mushrooms so much my son thought we had some wild hogs on the place.
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Post by angelhelp on Jan 14, 2013 4:56:48 GMT -7
Pine nettles?
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Post by sirderrin on Jan 14, 2013 6:56:46 GMT -7
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