12 gauge ammo

[Cwi555]

What say you?

[orly152]

I chose 5000 because that's what I have....lol I would like to add about another 2000. It just depends what you are looking to prepare for...if is a TEOTWAWKI type situation then you couldnt have enough of it. I remeber when I was in the academy they showed me a video of some bank robbers in California in the 1980s or earlier. Anyways, to make the long story short, the police surrounded the house where the armed bank robbers were staying. A shoot out broke out, the fight ended 30 minutes later with all the suspects dead. The investigation revealed that in those 30 minutes a little over 5 thousand rounds were fired.

So, what I'm trying to say is that if you have the money to buy as much ammo as you can then go for it

[Cwi555]

Apr 6, 2013 20:42:31 GMT -7 orly152 said:

I chose 5000 because that's what I have....lol I would like to add about another 2000. It just depends what you are looking to prepare for...if is a TEOTWAWKI type situation then you couldnt have enough of it. I remeber when I was in the academy they showed me a video of some bank robbers in California in the 1980s or earlier. Anyways, to make the long story short, the police surrounded the house where the armed bank robbers were staying. A shoot out broke out, the fight ended 30 minutes later with all the suspects dead. The investigation revealed that in those 30 minutes a little over 5 thousand rounds were fired.

So, what I'm trying to say is that if you have the money to buy as much ammo as you can then go for it

5000 rounds of 12g?

[orly152]

Ha ha ha...yes sir....got to be ready to keep the critters away when everything goes to hell...lol Btw, that's not including the ammo for my handguns and 223 rounds

[Cwi555]

I hope you have some spare barrels, and shotguns for that matter.

[orly152]

Way ahead of you buddy...lol

[huntinguy]

500 is big plenty

[Cwi555]

There is never enough in my opinion, but practicalities do come to light. Such as where are you going to store it?

NFPA 495 addresses Ammunition storage. A relevant part many gun owners are unaware of is this:
11-2.3
Small arms ammunition shall be separated from
materials classified by the US Department of
Transportation as flammable liquids, flammable
solids, and oxidizing materials by a distance of 15 ft
(4.6 m) or by a fire partition having a fire resistance
of at least 1 hour.
11-2.4
Small arms ammunition shall not be stored together
with Division 1.1, Division 1.2, or Division 1.3
Explosives, except where the storage facility is suit-
able for the storage of explosive materials


Storing it in the same room you reload it puts you in violation of 11-2.3, as does storing it in your garage with gasoline nearby, or anything in that list. Some common kitchen chemicals can be considered flammable and or oxidizers. There are the kind of technicalities over zealous prosecutors will hang you with once the legal minds have sway and convince the moron you could not be arrested for having reams of ammo.

I'd have enough to sink the titanic if I could, but those kind of considerations and others do put a realistic damper on things.

[USCGME2]

An NFPA violation would fall under building codes. I believe there would be a long remedy process. They do not fall under criminal prosecution if Im not mistaken. City/ county building inspectors could make life complicated for you though, especially if you are fixn up the place and need that all important permit.

As far as how much#00 to have, I would say that a wide variety from #8 to slugs are needed with a few "specialty" rounds thrown in for good measure. You can go through a load of them quickly bird hunting.

[Cwi555]

Apr 6, 2013 22:04:57 GMT -7 USCGME2 said:

An NFPA violation would fall under building codes. I believe there would be a long remedy process. They do not fall under criminal prosecution if Im not mistaken. City/ county building inspectors could make life complicated for you though, especially if you are fixn up the place.

Your correct, willful violation of such has sent many to jail based on it being construed as reckless endangerment.

[Cwi555]

Keep in mind, I am not saying it's right. A good attorney could get most folks out of such.
However, that is closing the barn door after it's opened. The success rate of getting firearms and or ammunition back once confiscated is dismal. Then there are the cost incurred that are even harder to recoup.

Edit: there is a specific case I have in mind, but can't find a link for it. It was out of California (imagine that), the man had 128 firearms and over 1 million rounds of ammo. Nothing illegal, but they went on a witch hunt, up to and including forcing him to be mentally evaluated.

[sirderrin]

I prefer #4 buckshot personally in the 12 gauge......OO will do the job just fine though in most cases

[Deleted]

I figure more than 5000...

With miultiple peolple having multiple 12g in TEOTWAWKI situation, that ammo can be used for security, hunting, traps and other things. Having extra parts (barrels, etc) for your guns is a must no matter what you shoot, but it would be in a persons best interest not to go guns fully blazing simply due to the waste of ammo, over heating & warping the barrel, not to mention if you are in a fire fight with a 12g you better be dang good at shot placement and speed loading because when you have to reload, the other guy is gonna be close enough to be on you before you are ready. If he isn't that close, then you should be using something other than a 12g to keep from wasting ammo (among other reasons). JMO.

[marc]

I don't need guns anymore because I think that the Government can take care of me if I need help.

But, when I did own shotguns, at any given time I would generally have 2000 - 3000 rounds counting #7-1/2 bird, #4 buck, 00 buck and slugs. And that was before I starting prepping. It may sound like a lot of 12ga, but it really isn't when you consider the sheer versatility of the platform.

For buck shot only: 1000 each of #4 and 00 would be a good base to build on.

Storage isn't a problem unless you keep it all in one place, which isn't a good idea anyway. Sure it's a lot weight but it really doesn't take up a lot space.

My view of "how much ammo" is based on emergency planning: "Enough for the rest of my life, when used very sparingly."

Marc

[mud]

I dont own a 12ga