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Post by ccove on Jun 25, 2012 11:43:23 GMT -7
The Army taught me enough to get my butt handed to me!!! I wish I knew more than I do. Yeah two hours of wrestling in a sand pit. That was helpful.
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Post by kutkota on Jun 25, 2012 11:46:56 GMT -7
we did a bit more than that but not much. They are making a very weak attempt to teach some form of combatives. Not all that well I might add.
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Post by ccove on Jun 25, 2012 13:22:48 GMT -7
we did a bit more than that but not much. They are making a very weak attempt to teach some form of combatives. Not all that well I might add. What makes me upset was that I was in combat arms. I took it on myself to get the training.
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Post by pathwinder14 on Jun 26, 2012 5:32:36 GMT -7
we did a bit more than that but not much. They are making a very weak attempt to teach some form of combatives. Not all that well I might add. What makes me upset was that I was in combat arms. I took it on myself to get the training. This is the sad part I see. Many branches "teach" self defense but it is token training. It doesn't get "real" until you get into a special forces area, like Combat Control, Rangers, Seals, Marine Recon, etc. Heck, when I was in the Air Force, they were not teaching any sort of self defense in Basic Training. I do not know if that has changed. I had to take on getting my own training and educcation in Self Defense. The Israeli's have it right. Teach everyone Krav Maga. Problem Solved.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2012 7:37:05 GMT -7
What makes me upset was that I was in combat arms. I took it on myself to get the training. This is the sad part I see. Many branches "teach" self defense but it is token training. It doesn't get "real" until you get into a special forces area, like Combat Control, Rangers, Seals, Marine Recon, etc. Heck, when I was in the Air Force, they were not teaching any sort of self defense in Basic Training. I do not know if that has changed. I had to take on getting my own training and educcation in Self Defense. The Israeli's have it right. Teach everyone Krav Maga. Problem Solved. Pardon my stupidity, please....but what is Krav Maga?
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Post by pathwinder14 on Jun 26, 2012 8:45:00 GMT -7
Pardon my stupidity, please....but what is Krav Maga? Don't feel stupid. It's o.k. not to know. It is the Israeli combat/martial art/self defense system taught to all its military members. In Israel everyone must sign up for 2 years mandatory military service (there are few exeptions). They are taught Krav Maga to defend themselves. It is a very effective and very nasty system. It dispense with useless moves and delivers very crippling and very fast techniques. The only problem with it is that it does not have varying degrees of intensity. It usually results with your opponent dead or crippled.
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Post by cowgirlup on Jun 26, 2012 9:14:15 GMT -7
Pardon my stupidity, please....but what is Krav Maga? Don't feel stupid. It's o.k. not to know. It is the Israeli combat/martial art/self defense system taught to all its military members. In Israel everyone must sign up for 2 years mandatory military service (there are few exeptions). They are taught Krav Maga to defend themselves. It is a very effective and very nasty system. It dispense with useless moves and delivers very crippling and very fast techniques. The only problem with it is that it does not have varying degrees of intensity. It usually results with your opponent dead or crippled. I took it for 4 years. The whole thought was to avoid conflict if possible. If not then you have to incapacitate the attacker. But like any system it doesn't make you a bullet proof super hero.
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Post by 720flysurvive on Jun 26, 2012 13:27:31 GMT -7
Don't hate, but they all say to avoid conflict. WTH others say violence doesn't solve any thing BS it solves many thing quickly. Heck why do we have a military if violence does work? ?? I still believe that fighting should be a basic human right! it sickens me when I hear cops being called to schools cause a couple of boys got in a scuffle ------- this just makes are next generation weaker. Makes our nation weaker, IMHO it makes us look like a bunch of sissy to the rest of the world? My grandpa was a bare knuckle fighter during the depression, well one of them. The other was a bar keep at a speak easy. Either way, ain't a dang thing wrong with a little knuckle game. This is just one more pansy America theory being FORCED on us, and our children so the guberment can walk all over us once again IMHO
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Post by 720flysurvive on Jun 26, 2012 13:38:39 GMT -7
I would Also like to add that I believe that why those jet were able to be hi-jacked with BOX CUTTERS!!!!!! We had ONE jet with some John Waynes in it, and that's why that jet never made it to it's target I keen what's next are we to cower down to a water gun? Plus every form of the marial arts will tell you that you need real life fighting to sharpen your edge as well
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Post by cowgirlup on Jun 26, 2012 15:24:21 GMT -7
The point about avoiding conflict didn't mean ALL conflict. The point was not to go around getting onto fights because someone stepped on your toe in a bar or someone cut you off in traffic so at the next red light you yank them out of their car beat the snot out of them.
If your life or health is in danger then by all means have at it.
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Post by 720flysurvive on Jun 26, 2012 15:56:15 GMT -7
Big grin
It's just a sore subject with me. I feel bad for the future, it's like they want to true us into something other than human. Like the super peaceful aliens from out space. I don't know I just think rumble tumble once in a while is a healthy thing. Heck look at are so called leaders these days. We've gone from George washinton ( who was a warrior ) to Obama who probably couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag, ya know
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Post by cowgirlup on Jun 26, 2012 17:09:58 GMT -7
Well there is the point. Krav isn't taught as a polite boxing match or a tumble on the mats or a MMA cage fight that has some type of rules. It is all about maiming or killing if you have to. I dpn't want to live in a world full of sissies and cry babies but I don't want to be in a world where someone is trying to kill me because I bumped into them in a crowd or didn't look at them in the right way.
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Post by 720flysurvive on Jun 26, 2012 18:06:55 GMT -7
BTW that wasn't an attack on you at all
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Post by cowgirlup on Jun 27, 2012 3:06:04 GMT -7
I didn't take it that way. I just figured you weren't paying attention.
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Post by 720flysurvive on Jun 27, 2012 6:01:29 GMT -7
Well it wouldn't be the first time I've heard that LOL
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