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Post by offtrail on Oct 28, 2013 18:57:18 GMT -7
Man I hate it when you guys make me learn something new.. lol A deus ex machina (pronounced [ˈdeus eks ˈmaː.kʰi.na], /ˈdeɪ.əs ɛks ˈmɑːkiːnə/ or /ˈdiːəs ɛks ˈmækɨnə/[1]; from Latin, meaning "god from the machine"; plural: dei ex machina) is a plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem is suddenly and abruptly resolved by the contrived and unexpected intervention of some new event, character, ability, or object. Depending on how it is done, it can be intended to move the story forward when the writer has "painted himself into a corner" and sees no other way out, to surprise the audience, to bring a happy ending into the tale, or as a comedic device. That's TV for you. |
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Post by graf on Oct 29, 2013 2:44:56 GMT -7
I picked up on the gun message also, made me laugh, for god's sake don't protect your family, remain prey. I also thought the bunker was so involved with his John Wayne mentalility he missed key security precautions. Going outside was huge mistake, leaving supplies outside easily found was stupid, camo of the area was poor, and should have had rigged kill zones to protect the perimeter. He would have been better off establishing a good relationship with his neighbor prior to SHTF, power in numbers.
You can have the best bunker in the world but if you don't protect it properly and have the right mindset its all useless.
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Post by solargeek1 on Oct 29, 2013 7:09:50 GMT -7
Taping it tonight to watch tomorrow.
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Post by rollerpig on Oct 29, 2013 7:58:56 GMT -7
Found the youtube video of it in case anyone missed it and wants to watch it.
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Post by thywar on Oct 29, 2013 8:21:26 GMT -7
Rollerpig.. you rock!!! thanks
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Post by rollerpig on Oct 29, 2013 14:30:03 GMT -7
Thanks, I missed it and didn't want to wait until the rerun.
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Post by USCGME2 on Oct 29, 2013 16:10:24 GMT -7
Can you imagine the chaos at large themed amusement parks with riders stuck high in the air on roller coasters stuck in the upside down position or even being on a ferris wheel. Or how about being in an elevator at the near top level of the Empire State Building, now that would really suck. I was thinking of exactly that while we were at Disney. One night at Magic Kingdom it was so freakin crowded my wife started freaking out a bit. I was grateful the crowd was well behaved but, what if something kicked off a stampede? What I concluded was that while in places like a plane, an amusement park ferris wheel, stuck on a bridge in traffic, or in the North Tower, it is what it is. You cant be in an advantageous position all the time. Sometimes you are just stuck where you're at. All you can do is minimize it as much as possible and fight fight fight to get on terra firma. |
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Post by Cwi555 on Oct 29, 2013 18:43:13 GMT -7
Can you imagine the chaos at large themed amusement parks with riders stuck high in the air on roller coasters stuck in the upside down position or even being on a ferris wheel. Or how about being in an elevator at the near top level of the Empire State Building, now that would really suck. I was thinking of exactly that while we were at Disney. One night at Magic Kingdom it was so freakin crowded my wife started freaking out a bit. I was grateful the crowd was well behaved but, what if something kicked off a stampede? What I concluded was that while in places like a plane, an amusement park ferris wheel, stuck on a bridge in traffic, or in the North Tower, it is what it is. You cant be in an advantageous position all the time. Sometimes you are just stuck where you're at. All you can do is minimize it as much as possible and fight fight fight to get on terra firma. A few words on that. First its a real concern. With idiots willing to strap bombs to themselves and other threats of that nature, the likelihood of a stampede is high if it happens. For that matter, just some idiot with firecrackers could set one off. Pay attention to the layout of the park, they are all designed to herd people around in a controlled manner. If something does happen, dont run for the gate, that would likely get you trampled. Staff entrances and exits are usually masked, or hidden in a manner designed to not interrupt the visual flow of the park. Those will be your best bet for safety. Second, pay attention to the rides and facilities on the periphery of the park. Using Disney as an example, the train that circles the main park rides a path that takes it to the main entrance as well as bordering some public streets just outside the park. Another Disney for instance are the shops that line the streets immediately after entering the park. They are designed to be stocked by either tunnels below, or passageways behind them in order not to disrupt patrons with supply vehicles out front. They are another potential path out of harms way. Whatever you do, don't follow the herd when they stampede. |
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Post by USCGME2 on Oct 29, 2013 19:22:38 GMT -7
Very good points indeed CWI and I often imagined escape routes like you mentioned. One thing I kept a lookout for was "hard breaks". That is thinking of a mass of people like a fluid river, they tend to take the path of least resistance. In such a migration, I would look for cut aways, building corners, or alcoves where the "herd" could pass around you like water moving around a rock.
In my reply I was only trying to mention that sometimes you can not always be in an ideal position. Some of the shows you go to are just a mass In all honesty, I really get stressed in crowded places and thats why I never liked overly crowded bars, and places like that
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Post by cajunlady87 on Oct 30, 2013 4:07:37 GMT -7
I have the same thoughts about "following the herd". In movies, of course those stampedes are choreographed for dramatic effects, I ask myself why follow the herd when the almost inevitable outcome of being trampled to death will happen. Maybe the thought of the moment is safety in numbers as outrageous as that may sound. Or, just maybe through no thinking at all the body gets drawn to the actions of others to seek safety by going to the closest outlet away from the immediate threat. Again it's only in the movies but I agree with cwi, don't follow the herd. Seek out any little nook or cranny to become invisible. Jump counters and follow the employees, they know a better, safer way out. In the shooting mall of late, one young woman climbed in an air vent to hide. Seek out these places in your mind where ever you are and hope you don't have to use them. Of course there will always be times we aren't afforded options but that's just the way it is.
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Post by garret on Oct 30, 2013 6:51:02 GMT -7
i laughed at their rather hopeful fatality rate, heck i bet there are 300,000 americans who require electricity just to survive to power medical devices alone before you even get into the felonious and accidental deaths, i think they missed a 0 off the total somewhere.
with just 3 cities, washington, detroit and chicago you would get that amount and more and you can bet 10 days of no power these cities would explode, they are almost on the edge now and thats when things are running add stockton, memphis and a few other of the 'troubled cities' and you would be up into the millions in no time flat
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Post by mud on Oct 30, 2013 12:12:19 GMT -7
On the web site they give how they figure fatalities and mention medical dependant folks were not included.
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Post by insaneh on Nov 19, 2013 5:31:36 GMT -7
i laughed at their rather hopeful fatality rate, heck i bet there are 300,000 americans who require electricity just to survive to power medical devices alone before you even get into the felonious and accidental deaths, i think they missed a 0 off the total somewhere. with just 3 cities, washington, detroit and chicago you would get that amount and more and you can bet 10 days of no power these cities would explode, they are almost on the edge now and thats when things are running add stockton, memphis and a few other of the 'troubled cities' and you would be up into the millions in no time flat Yes, a very optimistic view imo. I doubt seriously that the police would be leaving their families unattended in such an event. If there's rampant riots and pillaging going on, I'd be there protecting my family. Then again, I wouldn't be there at all. I thought sure that kid was gonna shoot his mother. Just to send the message home hard "Guns are bad!" |
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Post by Ceorlmann on Nov 19, 2013 21:51:51 GMT -7
Just watched it on Youtube. At its worst I'd rate it PG compared to what could, and in some cases with past disasters, did happen.
If I had to root for anyone in there I'd go with the college kids. In contrast the so-called family that prepped doesn't get many points from me.
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