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Post by bigiron on Jun 2, 2012 15:18:24 GMT -7
I'm looking for a 22 long gun. And though this has been debated ad infinitum, I would love your opinions on whether a tube fed or a magazine type 22 is better and why?
My current feeling is that the tube fed would be better for me for a Bug Out Gun because the mag is attached if you will - I don't have to track the mags etc. Oh and I live in California so my mag capacity is 10 rounds. I think the tubers can hold up to 17 rounds.
Additionally I'm leaning towards bolt action vice semi auto.
The gun will have multi purposes - bug out, hunting etc.
Help me decide!
Big
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Post by woodyz on Jun 2, 2012 15:43:58 GMT -7
Magazine and semi-auto. Magazine because you can pre-load them but must load the tube each time. Semi-auto because you can always shoot one shot at a time but if you need to you can shoot several rapidly.
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Post by woodscustom on Jun 2, 2012 16:04:00 GMT -7
Okay, I'm going to shake thigs up, and say this......... "What will the 22 be used for?" Will it be used for hunting, and hunting only? Then I would go with a tube feed. Reason?? SIMPLE.. When was the last time you have EVER heard of someone loosing the tube? Yes, it does happen, but RARELY. Look back at some of those ancient Remington and Marlins with the tube feed. They still have them don't they? Now, look at the same model with a magazine. Better than 50% of the rifles do not have the magazine with them. Lost years ago. COULD your 22 possibly be used in a Defensive situation? If it is, then I would go Magazine. Woodyz hit the nail on the head Fast Mag Changes and Pre loaded Magazines. Here's my Tactical 22.  It has a Magazine. If I'm down to one Mag for it, and I loose it, or it gets damaged beyond repair, the gun is a hunk of junk. As for bolt gun VS Semi auto? That choice is yours. I went Squirrel hunting this morning with all the boys and I was packing a dang Single Shot 22! If I were to RECOMMEND a 22. I would always recommend the Ruger 10-22 Semi- Auto and buy extree mags for it, stashing them in different places in your BOB. WC |
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Post by heysmithy on Jun 2, 2012 16:36:31 GMT -7
Just about the only tube fed .22 I've got experience with is the Marlin Model 60, which I'm sure is by far the most popular tube fed .22. That gun is extremely accurate, but tends to be picky on ammo compared to a lot of mag fed .22s.
WC that gun looks like a H&K G3. Same charging handle, extendable butt, sights, and receiver shape. Does it feel like one too? Looks like a great practice gun for somebody that owns a G3 or one of the many American clones.
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Post by WILL on Jun 2, 2012 16:50:50 GMT -7
A bug out .22 rifle is likely to see action as both a defensive weapon and hunting tool. For that reason alone, I would recommend a magazine fed gun for ease of reload in combat.
P.S. The whole question is wrong IMHO. It's like asking me which 4 cylinder makes the best race car. I don't think a .22 rifle is a good combat weapon, thus wouldn't recommend it in an environment where combat is likely. If it's even possibly going to get ugly, bring a center fire weapon. .22's are good for small game hunting.
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Post by woodscustom on Jun 2, 2012 16:51:17 GMT -7
WC that gun looks like a H&K G3. Same charging handle, extendable butt, sights, and receiver shape. Does it feel like one too? Looks like a great practice gun for somebody that owns a G3 or one of the many American clones. It's a HK MP5 SD6  WICKED BAD AWESOME PS... WCR shot a Groundhog today with a Marlin Model 60 when we were over at my Aunt's house. She said, "I wish someone would shoot that darn Groundhog under the old house." WCR said, "You got a gun?" She pulled out a Marlin Model 60 that she said hadn't been fired in over 30 Years. Bang............One dead Groundhog. WC |
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Post by woodscustom on Jun 2, 2012 16:56:54 GMT -7
I don't think a .22 rifle is a good combat weapon, thus wouldn't recommend it in an environment where combat is likely. If it's even possibly going to get ugly, bring a center fire weapon. .22's are good for small game hunting. Nope, Me neither. Sad is the day I would have to take a dang 22 into a brawl. BUT... It's better than throwing rocks and using harsh language. I think the 22 is a real good Bug Out Weapon if you look at the capabilities. But a Poor choice if there's a shootout. WC |
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Post by wtrfwlr on Jun 2, 2012 17:31:18 GMT -7
A bug out .22 rifle is likely to see action as both a defensive weapon and hunting tool. For that reason alone, I would recommend a magazine fed gun for ease of reload in combat. P.S. The whole question is wrong IMHO. It's like asking me which 4 cylinder makes the best race car. I don't think a .22 rifle is a good combat weapon, thus wouldn't recommend it in an environment where combat is likely. If it's even possibly going to get ugly, bring a center fire weapon. .22's are good for small game hunting. Will, If anyone asks you what you think is the best 4 cyl. race engine you can tell them you would pick a Cosworth BDT-E 2.4 litre it will produce 1150+ Brake Horsepower at 14,000 RPM Pretty good little 4 banger huh? |
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Post by WILL on Jun 2, 2012 17:34:16 GMT -7
Will, If anyone asks you what you think is the best 4 cyl. race engine you can tell them you would pick a Cosworth BDT-E 2.4 litre it will produce 1150+ Brake Horsepower at 14,000 RPM Pretty good little 4 banger huh? Wow, one cylinder of that engine makes more HP than all 8 in my truck. |
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Post by xwing on Jun 2, 2012 17:37:13 GMT -7
Y'all know me well enough to know my answer. ..Roger 10/22 hands down...why would you limit yourself to single shot if there was even a remote chance you might have to shower a target /threat with multiple rounds?
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Post by wtrfwlr on Jun 2, 2012 17:40:04 GMT -7
Will, If anyone asks you what you think is the best 4 cyl. race engine you can tell them you would pick a Cosworth BDT-E 2.4 litre it will produce 1150+ Brake Horsepower at 14,000 RPM Pretty good little 4 banger huh? Wow, one cylinder of that engine makes more HP than all 8 in my truck. Yeah, it's pretty amazing. But you shouldn't feel bad. I don't know what kinda truck you have but if it's brand new you could probably buy almost three of them for what one of those Cosworth BDT-E engines cost! Sorry, back to the 22's |
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Post by Cwi555 on Jun 2, 2012 17:58:10 GMT -7
I say all the above at the price of .22's. Shoot them all extensively, the one you favor will make itself known.
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Post by bigiron on Jun 2, 2012 18:15:02 GMT -7
whoa 22 as a combat weapon??? who EVER said that?  Thanks for the replies. As I suspected - no clear answer. So as it will come down to personal preference (isn't that always the way) I'll be going to my range and shoot all my buddies' 22s  and decide from there. Big |
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Post by woodscustom on Jun 2, 2012 18:20:35 GMT -7
I absolutley LOVE the Rimfire versions of the Full size weapons.
M4 Carbines, HK MP5s, and so forth.
Cheap shooting practice, $20 for 500 Rounds vs. $200 for 500.
Would I walk past a Rock River M4 for a M4 Tactical 22LR?
Not a chance.
Then again, "I PITTY THE FOO" that tries to make it down my hallway if I had at Tactical 22 in my hands.
WC
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Post by thywar on Jun 2, 2012 18:41:23 GMT -7
Big, one of each and you'll be happy.. I have two marlins (tube fed with a speed loader) and I have a Ruger 10/22 with three 25 round magazines and three stock 10 rd magazines
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and decide from there.
