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Post by fenster on Jun 2, 2012 18:43:26 GMT -7
My dad brought his Pioneer .22 out the the range yesterday. It's at least 70 years old and tube fed. Shoots perfectly out to 100 yards. I like the fact that the tube is always there.
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Post by woodyz on Jun 2, 2012 19:50:33 GMT -7
My thought was if you are going to have a .22 rifle in a SHTF situation, (and I believe I should) then you should have as much advantage as possible so if you are out making those single shots on, deer, crow, rabbit, tree rat or whatever and ended up in a shootout with an armed muskrat you would have every advantage possible.
Not needing to carry two rifles while hunting is my preference but I don't want to shoot a tree rat with a SKS.
Ideally, some one would be hunting while someone else further out is providing security with something a little bigger.
But if all I had was a .22 and some loaded mags and I got into a shooting match I do not believe the other side would get off too easy.
If all I thought I would be doing is single shot hunting I would have a bolt action or an over and under .22/410.
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Post by WILL on Jun 2, 2012 20:03:10 GMT -7
whoa 22 as a combat weapon??? who EVER said that?  Thanks for the replies. As I suspected - no clear answer. So as it will come down to personal preference (isn't that always the way) I'll be going to my range and shoot all my buddies' 22s  and decide from there. Big
I'm looking for a 22 long gun. And though this has been debated ad infinitum, I would love your opinions on whether a tube fed or a magazine type 22 is better and why? My current feeling is that the tube fed would be better for me for a Bug Out Gun because the mag is attached if you will - I don't have to track the mags etc. Oh and I live in California so my mag capacity is 10 rounds. I think the tubers can hold up to 17 rounds. Additionally I'm leaning towards bolt action vice semi auto. The gun will have multi purposes - bug out, hunting etc. Help me decide! Big Since bugging out is listed separately from hunting, other than self defense, I'm not sure what bugging out could mean. Is bugging out code for target shooting? Secondly, you got a very clear, almost unanimous answer. Mag fed, semi-auto. |
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Post by bigiron on Jun 2, 2012 20:08:09 GMT -7
Big, one of each and you'll be happy.. I have two marlins (tube fed with a speed loader) and I have a Ruger 10/22 with three 25 round magazines and three stock 10 rd magazines The 25 round mags sound very enticing. I may have to 'smuggle' a couple of those into cali if/when ever I do get a 22 with a magazine...  Ha ha just joking cali sherrifs.... |
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Post by bigiron on Jun 2, 2012 20:13:03 GMT -7
whoa 22 as a combat weapon??? who EVER said that? Thanks for the replies. As I suspected - no clear answer. So as it will come down to personal preference (isn't that always the way) I'll be going to my range and shoot all my buddies' 22s and decide from there. Big
I'm looking for a 22 long gun. And though this has been debated ad infinitum, I would love your opinions on whether a tube fed or a magazine type 22 is better and why? My current feeling is that the tube fed would be better for me for a Bug Out Gun because the mag is attached if you will - I don't have to track the mags etc. Oh and I live in California so my mag capacity is 10 rounds. I think the tubers can hold up to 17 rounds. Additionally I'm leaning towards bolt action vice semi auto. The gun will have multi purposes - bug out, hunting etc. Help me decide! Big Since bugging out is listed separately from hunting, other than self defense, I'm not sure what bugging out could mean. Is bugging out code for target shooting? Secondly, you got a very clear, almost unanimous answer. Mag fed, semi-auto. almost almost... works with hand grenades all the time! regarding the rolls eyes... pls take no offense as it was not directed at you mr. Will. |
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Post by sirderrin on Jun 2, 2012 20:22:06 GMT -7
On the original topic I have a little(inter-arms) made in Rossi 22 mag that I love.....one screw for rapid break down and it is tube fed.....great shooter as well It is a model m59 and it is deadly out to roughly 100 yards with open iron sights....   |
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Post by WILL on Jun 3, 2012 4:22:44 GMT -7
I'm sorry Bigiron. I was being an Idiot.
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Post by bigiron on Jun 3, 2012 8:24:22 GMT -7
I'm sorry Bigiron. I was being an Idiot. Thanks Will - hey no worries.. I've always respected your profession and your opinion! big |
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Post by rangerxanatos on Jun 3, 2012 13:10:52 GMT -7
I would also opt for the magazine feed. I thought about a tube fed when buying mine but decided against it in case I ever dropped or bumped it wrong and dented the tube, making it inoperable.
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Post by orly152 on Jun 3, 2012 13:30:15 GMT -7
I've had a .22 Marlyn for about 24 years now and that thing still works like a charm. However, I need to buy a few internal replacement parts. I was actually thinking of buying another .22 but was considering a mag fed.
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Post by blademan on Jun 3, 2012 21:20:25 GMT -7
OK, here is my 2 cents worth. I'd choose a Marlin 981T or 981TS rifle. It's a tube fed, bolt action. It will shoot 22 shorts, longs and long rifle cartridges. The tube will hold 25 shorts, 19 longs and 17 long rifles. The rifle comes in either a blued finish (981T) or stainless (981TS). You can also shoot hyper velocity rounds with a bolt action 22, such as CCI Stingers, Remington Yellow jackets, Vipers, etc., whereas shooting these rounds in an auto loader is not recomended due to the recoil beating that the buffer takes because of the higher power loads. Not a good choice as a defensive weapon, but with proper shot placement, it will get the job done. It is excellent for hunting and target shooting. It's a very accurate rifle as long as you are doing your part.
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Post by mud on Jun 4, 2012 0:14:25 GMT -7
now something form the mud...
My first purchase of a 22 was a mossberg model 353C with a 7 rd mag. I still have it but guess what? no mag.. yup got lost in a move. I can buy some for it for about 18 bucks and they are 15 rds and as good as it shoots and my new improved homemade firing pin, I am itching to get one soon. That gun has been neglected for too long. My next 22 was a glenfield model 70c that had been rode hard and put away dirty as in likely never been cleaned other than a barrel swab. Following that was a model 60 limited edition from Otasco complete with gold medallion and squirrel on the stock. Man on man is that a shooter. it is a 1979 model and once cleaned up cycles everything flawlessly. My next purchase, at the recommendation of CWI was a Henry H001. It will shoot s,l,lr and you can mix and match them in the tube.
My last was a Browing buckmark with pro target sights but now sports an obscure Aimpoint red dot.(still on zero and easily smacking 2 inch steel at 40yds from a bench, 30 offhand)
Notice a pattern here? Only my first and last were mag fed while the others are tube. experience has taught me you can in reload your tubes rather quickly with a little practice. the key is to reload between exchanges so you really never run out. In my case exchanges mean targets. While I will honor both WC and WILL's opinions about a 22 for combat, I have yet to have anyone let me shoot them with any of mine nor would I let anyone shoot me!
They are spot on about the lackluster performance of the little round for a combat role as well as their choice of clip magazine vs tube for more lead downrange.
In conclusion, a bolt marlin or a semi marlin are hard to beat in quality for the price. The Henry cost more than a Ruger but is so smooth and accurate and the fit and finish is top notch, would be worth saving your pennies for. The Ruger is arguably the best semi out there and has the largest aftermarket. So for cost, a Marlin hands down. For aftermarket support, Ruger. For sheer bliss in shooting, the Henry. All will serve you well in a hunting and survival role as long as combat is not a priority.
Lastly, do not overlook the old Remington Speedmaster. They are tube fed semi that can and do cycle short, long and long rifle and are very accurate and reliable, or any single shot bolt gun. for easy packing I really like the Remington model 514 single shot for my kids. They can be converted to accept a 5 rd box mag but again with a little practice can be loaded and fired much faster than you would think.
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Post by Redneckidokie on Jun 4, 2012 2:50:51 GMT -7
I will have to throw down with the tube fed for a survival gun. Mine will be attached to a Marlin 39a with open sights. By pinching the outer tube just a tiny bit, then the inner tube can not fall out. Alway ready with a full load. If I drop my mag while carrying my 1022 I have a single shot that is hard as heck to load. Although if there was ever a chance that I thought my 22 might end up being my 'combat' weapon I would take my Colt M4-22 and all the thirty round mags I could pack. |
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Post by orly152 on Jun 4, 2012 4:05:36 GMT -7
You also can't go wrong with the price for .22 ammo. You can get a brick of 500 rounds for 19.99 at wolly world.
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Post by blademan on Jun 4, 2012 5:15:56 GMT -7
You also can't go wrong with the price for .22 ammo. You can get a brick of 500 rounds for 19.99 at wolly world. Yes, plus you can carry around 500 rounds much easier than 500 rounds of center fire rounds  |
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and decide from there.
Ha ha just joking cali sherrifs....
