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Post by jmarshnh on Nov 25, 2014 17:10:08 GMT -7
I am trying to make my mind up here on a couple of purchases. I really want the Henry 30-30 and would like a breakdown .22. I have a chance to pick up the two above for just under $900 and was wondering if anyone could me the low down on the 30-30. I know I can pick up a new 30-30 a lot cheaper but right now I am hung up on Henry.
The Ruger 10-22 takedown is about $200 more than I can pick up the AR7 for.
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Should I opt for a Springfield M6 Scout (.410/.22) if I can find one? (I already have a .410 and 4 .22s and that is why I prefer a breakdown .22, plus it is easier to stow.
Jim
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Post by thywar on Nov 25, 2014 17:41:20 GMT -7
It's a personal preference. Do I like southern redheads better than California blondes.....oh wait. I've always liked Marlin lever guns. From .30-30s to .357 magnums. I have fired a .44 mag Henry rifle. S W E E T !!!
So I see your taste for Henry. For the money though. Marlin. For the .22. Ruger 10/22 takedown. It's a Ruger. Dependable. Trustworthy priced right. My .02
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Post by marc on Nov 25, 2014 17:41:48 GMT -7
My experience with an AR7 over 6 months, kind of tainted me forever..... it just never seemed to come back to zero after every breakdown. I couldn't find any slop, or wiggle in the components - but it just didn't do it for me. Seemed like it always seemed to drift the POA between shots, even fired from my Lead Sled on the bench. But then I've personally talked to people who really love theirs, so get your hands on one and see! Henry makes some really wonderful products and their .30-30 is well regarded by most people that I know.
I was hot-to-trot for the Ruger 10/22 take down when it came out. Not sure what you have in mind, but I've reached the conclusion that a take down .22 rifle isn't what I need at this point.
Marc
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Post by thywar on Nov 25, 2014 17:44:27 GMT -7
My experience with an AR7 over 6 months, kind of tainted me forever..... it just never seemed to come back to zero after every breakdown. I couldn't find any slop, or wiggle in the components - but it just didn't do it for me. Seemed like it always seemed to drift the POA between shots, even fired from my Lead Sled on the bench. But then I've personally talked to people who really love theirs, so get your hands on one and see! Henry makes some really wonderful products and their .30-30 is well regarded by most people that I know. I was hot-to-trot for the Ruger 10/22 take down when it came out. Not sure what you have in mind, but I've reached the conclusion that a take down .22 rifle isn't what I need at this point. Marc Marc you do know you don't HAVE to 'take it down' Lol. Just leave it put together. It's iust like any other .22 after that. |
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Post by marc on Nov 25, 2014 17:48:04 GMT -7
My experience with an AR7 over 6 months, kind of tainted me forever..... it just never seemed to come back to zero after every breakdown. I couldn't find any slop, or wiggle in the components - but it just didn't do it for me. Seemed like it always seemed to drift the POA between shots, even fired from my Lead Sled on the bench. But then I've personally talked to people who really love theirs, so get your hands on one and see! Henry makes some really wonderful products and their .30-30 is well regarded by most people that I know. I was hot-to-trot for the Ruger 10/22 take down when it came out. Not sure what you have in mind, but I've reached the conclusion that a take down .22 rifle isn't what I need at this point. Marc Marc you do know you don't HAVE to 'take it down' Lol. Just leave it put together. It's iust like any other .22 after that. NOW you tell me! Geeeez...... Marc |
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Post by Cwi555 on Nov 25, 2014 18:18:23 GMT -7
Considered the politically correct response then said screw it.
I've owned the AR 7 before and found it as durable as a match stick, and about as reliable as a goat giving cow milk. Any gun that works reliably is better than a rock so for that instance, I am reaching for the rock. That's not a mark against Henry. It's just a POS design they tried to make work. They got farther with it than previous manufacturers, but your still not getting the cow milk out of a goat design.
For the M6, it's reliable, but way over priced.
I own the ruger take down x3. It's more about collection than for anything else. I like them, but for loadout, it's not going to replace the mark II,s. The take downs are reliable and do maintain POA. Just not willing to reinvent the wheel at this point and time.
Since you already have .410 and .22, my suggestion is the 30-30 Henry lever.
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Post by thywar on Nov 25, 2014 20:12:51 GMT -7
CWI would you compare the two, Henry and Marlin. I think they both shoot good. Henry is made in U.S. which is a plus but you can buy a Marlin for about half the cost of a Henry and I find them reliable.
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Post by USCGME2 on Nov 25, 2014 21:52:33 GMT -7
My .02; Marlin 336 30/30. They are side eject if you some day want to scope it. I shot that 44 henry with Thywar and it is SWWEEEET. Henrys are cool but pricey. Get the Ruger, they are nice. Never heard any good coming from the AR7. Just my perspective.
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Post by Cwi555 on Nov 25, 2014 22:12:14 GMT -7
CWI would you compare the two, Henry and Marlin. I think they both shoot good. Henry is made in U.S. which is a plus but you can buy a Marlin for about half the cost of a Henry and I find them reliable. Both manufactures make a good 3030. I have purchased Henry to support American jobs, but that is the only real advantage. Mechanically, neither really stands out above the other. |
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Post by graf on Nov 26, 2014 1:42:47 GMT -7
I have the AR-7 not truly impressed with it so I purchased a Rossi with 2 barrels .22 and .410 comes in a small case that holds both barreals and reciever and will fit in most packs or attach to the outside. stock is also synthetic and hollow so i store extra ammo in it. The gu is single shot so I can shoot any .22 without woory of jamming if its low velocity load. I have had it for a few years but if I remmeber right it was less than the AR-7
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Post by Redneckidokie on Nov 26, 2014 2:26:12 GMT -7
Here I go. Prepare feathers to be ruffled. Find you a well preserved pre-safty Marlin 336-c. Life will be forever good. The Ar-7 has been drug around on every forum for years, and end result is they are a waste of what little material is in them. (Had them by all their manufacturers). As for Henry in general? I to found them appealing and spent a year tracking down the octagon pump 22. Beautiful wood and barrel. Zinc receiver? Off to the range, and there my love died on the vine! Slide and action took both hands to cycle, it improved after several hundred shucks. Accuracy was ok with the awful double buckhorn sights. The deal breaker was the bolt would ride back then too far over the hammer, putting it at an extreme angle causing it to lock up. By holding down the hammer then driving the bolt forward with the heal of your hand or other tool it would return to battery. I took it to the local dealers gun smith who laughed at me, n said you bought a Henry? I sent it back but still had a problem on return. I traded it off for $100 loss. That's just my experience. Some folks love them. CWI and I discussed the zinc receivers and brass coated zinc golden boys. He was going to test some to see if they melt like zinc pennys lol. Results still pending. Take down Ruger 10-22? I finally own two. I wanted to hate then when they came out. I handled one at a show, loose n wobbly, blah! Later tried one put together right and love it, shoots as good as any new Ruger 22. Way long story ended, I buy all the old Marlin non push button safety 30-30's and 39A golden 22's I find. I own zero Henry's. Happy shooting  |
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Post by Redneckidokie on Nov 26, 2014 2:50:34 GMT -7
A friend of mine is crazy over those Rossi take downs. He started with what you have I think, a kit? Then he got the four barrel kit. I know he has 22, 410,223, 243, 20 or 12ga, and a 50 cal black powder. He has a fascination with them. One was a wood stock, he cut it in half for all the kids to shoot. A whole new generation of hunters have learned on that thing. LoL I have the AR-7 not truly impressed with it so I purchased a Rossi with 2 barrels .22 and .410 comes in a small case that holds both barreals and reciever and will fit in most packs or attach to the outside. stock is also synthetic and hollow so i store extra ammo in it. The gu is single shot so I can shoot any .22 without woory of jamming if its low velocity load. I have had it for a few years but if I remmeber right it was less than the AR-7 |
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Post by graf on Nov 26, 2014 6:35:30 GMT -7
A friend of mine is crazy over those Rossi take downs. He started with what you have I think, a kit? Then he got the four barrel kit. I know he has 22, 410,223, 243, 20 or 12ga, and a 50 cal black powder. He has a fascination with them. One was a wood stock, he cut it in half for all the kids to shoot. A whole new generation of hunters have learned on that thing. LoL I have the AR-7 not truly impressed with it so I purchased a Rossi with 2 barrels .22 and .410 comes in a small case that holds both barreals and reciever and will fit in most packs or attach to the outside. stock is also synthetic and hollow so i store extra ammo in it. The gu is single shot so I can shoot any .22 without woory of jamming if its low velocity load. I have had it for a few years but if I remmeber right it was less than the AR-7 My 3 grandsons also started with my Rossi, out of the box pretty accurate. |
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Post by jmarshnh on Nov 26, 2014 6:44:19 GMT -7
Thanks to all for the honest, been there done that, opinions. Way better than the "I heard" stories. I think, after mulling it over again after the responses, I will probably (actually I will) go with the Marlin 30-30 and put the extra money toward a nice semi-auto .22 handgun for my wife's purse (sure-heard that story before). rednekidokie- Why the pre safety 336 as opposed to the post safety? thanks cwi- Since you already have .410 and .22, my suggestion is the 30-30 Henry lever. ..My wife's sentiments exactly. She likes the Marlin also (only for the price difference! Me..It is my money, I have been saving it up Wife..Yes, but you need adult supervision when you spend it on guns and knives! aaarrrgggghhhh!  Again thanks to all: ps.I like southern redheads and CA blondes.. Jim |
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Post by tjwilhelm on Nov 26, 2014 8:55:43 GMT -7
I have a Marlin 336c, made in 1968. It's the one firearm I think my son wants to have when I depart this earthly plane. As stated by others, it really is a sweet shooter. Old vs. new? While I don't have personal experience with the new Marlins, in 2007(?) Remington bought Marlin. Since then, I've heard less then glowing reports about quality and more than normal reports about issues and returns...but that just comes from firearm forums, such as www.marlinowners.com One third-party add-on I put on my 336 was a replacement pivot screw on the lever. It's a thumb-screw with a coin slot -- you can use a quarter to remove it. Break down for cleaning and lube involves removing the lever, and this rugged screw makes that easier and helps avoid scratching bluing with a screw driver tip. I bought it from Grizzly Custom Guns -- www.grizzlycustom.com/parts_marlin.htmlHere's what it looks like...  marlin 336 02a by tjwilhelm148149, on Flickr |
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