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Post by Dennis on Jan 3, 2013 17:48:44 GMT -7
Will are a few things to think about. Chains about 20 feet would be nice. Some kind of a winch even a come along can save your bacon. Tire repair kit and 12 air compressor. A ladder rack can really help with loads in a truck. Even if ya don't put anything on them you can put plywood up the sides to keep items in and give some sort of weather protection if needed. Then if ya really want to add some storage are side mounted tool boxes are great. Here is a pic of my diesel with a set of tool boxes I bought used for 100 bucks back in 1994. A ladder can be made pretty easy with just some steel and a welder.
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Post by WILL on Jan 3, 2013 18:20:28 GMT -7
Those are all good ideas. Don't forget to take the fuel from any vehicle you may be leaving home(including lawn mowers, motorcycles, quads. etc)
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Post by wtrfwlr on Jan 3, 2013 18:26:43 GMT -7
Those are all good ideas. Don't forget to take the fuel from any vehicle you may be leaving home(including lawn mowers, motorcycles, quads. etc) His truck is a diesel.
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Post by WILL on Jan 4, 2013 3:09:20 GMT -7
Those are all good ideas. Don't forget to take the fuel from any vehicle you may be leaving home(including lawn mowers, motorcycles, quads. etc) His truck is a diesel. I know. In his case, the farm tractor or transformers on his property. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer_oil
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Post by missasip on Jan 4, 2013 9:34:53 GMT -7
If the transformers are over 25 years old, they would be a poor choice, as they may contain PCBs. Granted the oil in transformers is highly refined, the PCB risk is way too high. Jimmy
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Post by wtrfwlr on Jan 4, 2013 9:40:10 GMT -7
If the transformers are over 25 years old, they would be a poor choice, as they may contain PCBs. Granted the oil in transformers is highly refined, the PCB risk is way too high. Jimmy Thank you Jimmy for pointing that out. I was going to recommend against it but coming from electrical lineman with first hand knowledge is more appropriate.
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Post by WILL on Jan 4, 2013 11:01:06 GMT -7
What's the risk with 25 year old PCB oil? Does that risk outweigh the need for a bug out under the conditions described here?
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Post by missasip on Jan 4, 2013 21:43:36 GMT -7
What's the risk with 25 year old PCB oil? Does that risk outweigh the need for a bug out under the conditions described here? Only if you don't care about the effects of the PCBs. Guess not. Course when you or a member of your family start to die from the effects of it and of course in a shtf scenrio there are not many docs around with specialized care to help you survive it. Then of course the are the effects on you for the rest of your life, along with a very much higher chance of some sort of cancer. I mean heck go ahead and use it. PBCs are not on my use list for any reason. 6 former workmates would love to tell you about it. But they are dead, so they can't. Just saying... Jimmy
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2013 23:04:06 GMT -7
What's the risk with 25 year old PCB oil? Does that risk outweigh the need for a bug out under the conditions described here? Only if you don't care about the effects of the PCBs. Guess not. Course when you or a member of your family start to die from the effects of it and of course in a shtf scenrio there are not many docs around with specialized care to help you survive it. Then of course the are the effects on you for the rest of your life, along with a very much higher chance of some sort of cancer. I mean heck go ahead and use it. PBCs are not on my use list for any reason. 6 former workmates would love to tell you about it. But they are dead, so they can't. Just saying... Jimmy How would one know if they have something containing PCBs? What all is it used in?
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Post by wtrfwlr on Jan 4, 2013 23:10:01 GMT -7
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Post by WILL on Jan 5, 2013 3:41:46 GMT -7
What's the risk with 25 year old PCB oil? Does that risk outweigh the need for a bug out under the conditions described here? Only if you don't care about the effects of the PCBs. Guess not. I guess the risk vs. reward will have to be weighed by the individual at the time of the disaster. It seems there are health risks to PCB use. It also looks like they stopped using it over 20 years ago and it has a 1/2 life of 8 years, so I'm not sure if many transformers even contain the stuff anymore. I also know that any oil is a carcinogen, but the PCBs look particularly bad. Defiantly something to consider, thanks for the information.
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Post by tjwilhelm on Jan 5, 2013 8:00:34 GMT -7
I just read through this entire thread for the first time...GREAT THREAD, GANG!
THANKS to all for the thoughtful and thought-provoking input; and, to WILL for starting it.
I have questions to ask and thoughts to share; but, they don't relate directly enough to the OP to post here. I'll go put them in a different thread...
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